Government procurement

[Группа К]

Lord!

As many of you probably know, Russia has a unified system of public procurement. Here, everyone from an Individual Entrepreneur to the owner of an LLC can declare their participation in open tenders and even try to win them.

When formulating the subject of an order, bidders are required to refer to the classifiers of OKVED and OKDP.

From a cursory analysis of the registry of contracts it follows that when placing goods (works, services) that are identical in nature to the types of detective activity, the customer uses the following OKDP and OKVED codes:
1) OKDP 7492000 Services for the investigation and security of individuals and property;
2) OKDP 7492010 Investigation services;
3) OKDP 7492020 Security advisory services;
4) OKDP 7492090 Other investigation and security services;
5) OKDP 7523000 Services in the field of public order and safety.
6) OKVED 75.24. Activities to ensure public order and security
7) OKVED 74.60. Provision of paid investigative and security services

Considering that the amounts that pass by the detective’s desk are not small (from 450,000 to 75 million rubles), it is proposed to assemble an initiative group to prepare a letter of commitment by the customer to require the contractor to have a license for non-state (private) detective activity.

Those wishing to participate in the project please join

respectfully
AK

 

[Детектив-Юг]

Alexander, congratulations on the past holidays.

The normal approach.
I subscribe.

 

[Детективное агентство Тула]

Considering that the amounts that pass by the detective’s desk are not small (from 450,000 to 75 million rubles), it is proposed to assemble an initiative group to prepare a letter of commitment by the customer to require the contractor to have a license for non-state (private) detective activity.

The desire to make money is understandable, justified and respectful.
The rationale for the requirement for a contractor to have a license for non-state (private) detective activity, only in this regard , is at least surprising. : o

 

[Группа К]

Alexander, congratulations on the past holidays.

The normal approach.
I subscribe.

Thanks Victor! I will prepare a draft letter in the near future!

 

[Группа К]

Considering that the amounts that pass by the detective’s desk are not small (from 450,000 to 75 million rubles), it is proposed to assemble an initiative group to prepare a letter of commitment by the customer to require the contractor to have a license for non-state (private) detective activity.

The desire to make money is understandable, justified and respectful.
The rationale for the requirement for a contractor to have a license for non-state (private) detective activity, only in this regard , is at least surprising. : o

It is normal to earn income, not only because legal activity is respected by normal people, but also because it is the only way to earn money for those whose detective activity is the main profession, so to speak full time.

I did not name the sum of 75 million rubles from the ceiling) there is a real example where the customer in the statement of work referred to the need for a performer to have a detective license.

 

[Группа К]

And the most important thing. I know that in this forum many do not have a license for private investigation. And they may object to me, noting that freedom of entrepreneurship provides for the opportunity for all interested parties to collect and sell information.

This is far from the case. The detective’s activities are licensed, in the 3rd article of the law the types of activities that only the detective is entitled to offer are listed.

Thus, this initiative is aimed at protecting the interests of licensed private investigators, undeservedly squeezed out of the market by representatives of security services, numerous consultants and collectors.

Through silence and inaction, we detectives voluntarily give away a significant piece of the pie to businessmen who, on the one hand, offer identical services, and on the other, do not bear any responsibility for unprofessionally performed work.

You need to take your rights. If a person wants to offer detective services, let him get a license, work, get a decent legal income and bear full responsibility for its poor performance.

A letter will be ready soon.

 

[Андрей Захаров]

I fully support this point of view and join the author ... However, there is one "misunderstanding" ... What does the "public procurement" site, which holds government contracts, have to do with all this ... The trick is whether representatives will have the desire it is of state structures, including local government structures, to use the services of non-state "services" (including the Black Sea region) ... According to the private security company, it’s clear that this is possible ... But our NPV is a very specific area of activity, which is unlikely whether public funds will be spent (if there are alternative state structures that can collect information to ensure the functioning of state structures) ...

 

[Группа К]

I fully support this point of view and join the author ... However, there is one "misunderstanding" ... What does the "public procurement" site, which holds government contracts, have to do with all this?

Andrey Valerievich! thanks for the support. When I talked about the public procurement website, I meant the official public procurement portal, which is located at this address
https://zakupki.gov.ru/epz/main/public/home.html

thank

 

[Андрей Захаров]

Accepted Alexander ...

 

[Детективное агентство Тула]

1) OKDP 7492000 Services for the investigation and security of individuals and property;
2) OKDP 7492010 Investigation services;
3) OKDP 7492020 Security advisory services;
4) OKDP 7492090 Other investigation and security services;
5) OKDP 7523000 Services in the field of public order and safety.
6) OKVED 75.24. Activities to ensure public order and security
7) OKVED 74.60. Provision of paid investigative and security services

The list of services No. 1-7 is rather typical for the activities of the departments of extra-departmental protection of the internal affairs bodies and private security organizations, including various FSUE Departmental Protection ....
You can, of course, with a great desire, find an analogy with the activities of private detectives, but only where there is a noun INVESTIGATION (S) ...