Working meeting in St. Petersburg.

[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

Working meeting of IAPD members dedicated to the VI Conference in September 2015



Formulated a working group of IAPD members for the preparation of the VI conference:

1. Daniltsev Alexander Sergeevich, detective agency "MID"
2. Smokty Nikolay Ivanovich, Assistant to the President of IAPD
3. Tselischev Vitaliy Valentinovich, detective agency "Purpose"
4. Yuryev Vyacheslav Aleksandrovich, detective agency "Petersburg"
5. Logvin Pavel Vladimirovich, detective agency "First Detective Agency"
6. Kravets Viktor Vasilievich, detective agency "Victor and K"
7. Tretyakov Dmitry Olegovich, detective agency "Triumph"
8. Stepanov Andrey Aleksandrovich, St. Petersburg School of Lie Detection
9. Kuzmin Victor Sergeevich, Advisor to the President, VimpelCom-KSP LLC
10. Popovich Nikolay Nikolaevich, Advisor to the President
11. Nechaev Sergey Anatolyevich, detective agency "Private Detective Investigations"
12. Vekshin Oleg Anatolyevich, Advisor to the President
13. Zaparenko Alexander Nikolaevich, Advisor to the President, detective agency “Profi”
14. Danilov Alexey Vladimirovich, Detective agency "Version".

In addition to preparing the conference, other topical issues were also discussed.
I give the opportunity to speak to colleagues on the substance of the issues raised and discussed!

Friends and colleagues, once again I urge you to join the working group to prepare for the conference!

 

[Запаренко Александр Николаевич]

Dear Colleagues!
In principle, the meeting was very useful and informative. The meeting was aimed at discussing the upcoming conference. The main issues planned for discussion were discussed - first of all, the amendment of the NPV law (including the possibility of influencing the legislators, there are prospects). In the primary direction we discussed organizational issues, outlined issues. I really liked the performance, deeply respected by me, Andrei Alexandrovich Stepanov. In addition to information regarding the use of a polygraph in a search, he said that on his website posted information of a negative plan about unscrupulous polygraph examiners. He is not afraid to voice information about people who undermine the credibility of the profession. I made a proposal for discussion to return to the forum a similar column. If we know about not good colleagues, let our customers know. It's my opinion. In addition, I ask my colleagues to speak out on the ideas “WHAT DO WE WANT TO SEE OUR LAW”? PLEASE LAY OUT YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE FORUM. You can create a separate branch for this. I urge both members and non-members to discuss, both from our forum and from any forum - everyone who is interested in creating a normal Law.
respectfully
AN

 

[Роберт]

And I thought everyone was extinct!

 

[Роберт]

These are my thoughts. Tell me, so many detectives at this moment? But am I able to promote the law in the Duma? What parties may be interested in this law besides private detectives? Which parties can support the initiative of the detectives? Personally, I do not know anyone except the Great Fatherland party. But this party will not take more than 2% of the election. About the election. Now the elections have been moved to an earlier date, so that until 2016 you can only begin to decide something. In 2015 - the budget !!!!! Well, gentlemen, I poheril your topic ?! Or not?! : D

 

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Anyway, the law on NPV is needed. But in addition to the law on NPVs, MUST! Be amended, the Criminal Code, the Civil Code and the Code of Criminal Procedure, Code of Civil Procedure of the Russian Federation. Without detectives having procedural status in criminal and civil law, all this does not matter. While the detective will not have the right to obtain evidence in criminal or civil cases and present them to the investigation and court, all this is complete garbage! Next, the mystery of detective work should be legally determined, following the example of doctors and lawyers. In addition, the methods of obtaining information should be equated to some extent with the police, but there should be restrictions such as informing law enforcement agencies about their actions (not the police, but the prosecutor's office or judges), the opera inform the judges when they want to obtain sanctions for lettering events. The weapon does not play a role, but the detective must have special means (gas fans, stun guns, body armor, means of recording evidence of crimes, offenses, including Pantimonopoly, environmental legislation, consumer protection (counterfeiting, etc.)

 

[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

Robert, you didn’t steal anything, even if you had such a desire, nothing would have happened.
I repeat, I invited you ...
We discussed a lot of things and developed a specific strategy.
You can continue to ignore my invitations ...
In this case, you will continue to think that everyone is "extinct" ...
You can enter the working group, then I will be waiting for you at the headquarters of the MOD, I am there every day.
Pre-call and agree.

 

[Роберт]

My legs hurt. I can definitely come. For example, the other day. I forgot everything that I am harmful!

 

[Роберт]

Well, I'm talking about pobery just like that, to justify the image of a "provocateur"! : D

 

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Further. A lawyer is required to protect any criminal. There is an institute of duty lawyers. The state also pays for the work of a lawyer to protect the accused, if he does not have his own defense attorney. Why not extend it to detectives? For example. The duty adokat needs to check the information he received on checking the suspect’s alibi, police violating applicable laws or explicitly exceeding their authority (being tortured with a champagne bottle in Kazan !!!), this work will allow for 2 days to be taken at the time of the trial preventive measures to release the suspect if the police are messing around. Well, all this will be possible when the detective received the rights of a procedural person. And then we have a whole army of police working for prosecutors, but nobody works for lawyers !!!!! Where is the balance of justice ?! But the police have a whole arsenal of hordes !!! And the defender a damn! In civil law, a detective can be hired by either party. But the main right of a detective is to EXPLAIN evidence. For this right, it is possible in article 203 to tighten the punishment !!!

 

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Well, something like this should be the MOD line, if you really decide the question of where the private investigation is now and where to move it, that’s what you need to work on and not listen to polygraph examiners! Boring !!!! We want to change something, we begin to lobby our interests among the defenders, we determine our place in the lawsuit! Then there will be customers !!! And everyone will be interested in this - and lawyers, and the prosecutor's office, and the court. Yes, if the police are honest, she will also be interested.