Resumos preliminares da reunião

[частный детектив Хмельницкий]

PROPOSALS FOR THE DISCUSSION DURING THE TIME: 1. I bring up a question for discussion, do we need to legalize our association legally? Matushkin Andrey 2. I think if you gather in the Crimea, first of all, so that, as Andrei writes, first of all, it is legal to formalize our association. Moscow Detective 3. If colleagues decided to get together, the creation of the public organization International Association of Detectives (there may be new proposals for the name) should be the main task. Kaimanovich Alexander 4. But I think that legal registration is not an end in itself. Here is PRACTICAL COOPERATION - it is really important! If we really manage to establish such cooperation, then legal registration will simply be the final step and in this case the organization will not be “stillborn”. In developing a mechanism for such practical cooperation, I see the main goal of the conference. Depsy 5. I think that after our meeting everything will fall into place, because if we find the time and get together, this is already a huge plus for our common success !! I am for joining the organization, as this provides a clear program of actions and work for all DAs and detectives within the organization with all the consequences that come from here. I would be very happy if the result of our meeting was the creation of such an organization, the determination of its status and the adoption of its own code of mountains . Kiev 6. Friends, the time has come to unite in an organization. We are for it!!! Imperial Sysk 7. We certainly vote for However, I ask you to pay attention that there are already more than one similar association, for example: The World Detective Network (WIN); World Association of Detectives (WAD); Association of Russian Detectives (which is the former Association of Siberian Detectives), etc. It makes sense to create a new association subject to real interaction, and not to exist solely on paper (many have just such an opinion about the work of the above associations). A good start has been made, thanks to the organizers of this forum. But still, maybe you should not rush? An officially registered association does not give any particular benefits (except for those who like to wave different crusts of members)))), plus registration, reporting, etc. Maybe it makes sense to communicate, interact for a year or two, the backbone of a future actual, rather than formal union, crystallizes out. Yes, and many random people in our business will drop out 8. Absolutely! Let’s at least work for a year, we’ll understand there. Although if most make a decision, I will support it. Argus 9. As for the creation of the organization as such, everyone needs to think ..... but the meeting is “live” in order to establish a lively and close cooperation, I think it’s very ripe The idea of creating an international association is very interesting! But it is no longer new, such an idea. How will it differ from the already created organizations? What are its advantages? Will there be contributions and what will they need to spend on? Are there any main goals and program? bushakov 10. Dear colleagues! The planned event in Sevastopal is interesting, but I would like to know to see the preliminary program of events: 1. Date of arrival. 2. The order of placement. 3. Dates of the meeting. 4. Preliminary list of speakers and topics for discussion. 5. Whether contributions are expected and in what form, amount. Before you gather, you must first set goals and objectives in order to determine. Syktyvkar 11. Colleagues, I think the main areas and topics should be identified and offered at home while sitting at the computer, ie make a program. And at the meeting, clearly and specifically discuss the identified issues, otherwise everything will be delayed and we will not have time to see the sights. DIBNN 12. But I fully support the idea of a meeting! Moscow Detective 13. Great idea! PDR 14. As a concept of the conference, I propose a simple, understandable and already voiced topic: “Organization of practical cooperation”. This is mutual assistance in fulfilling orders, and the exchange of practical experience, and training for beginners, as well as, if necessary, legal and material support, etc. And as for the invitation of VIPs, I think - early! After all, we are still nobody, so only - in the bud. I suggest not to rush with loud statements. Depsy 15. I think that before applying, you need to decide on the concept of this event. Can start with suggestions on how we see the conference? Orlan FINAL CONCLUSIONS: 1. Topics for discussion at the meeting: - the feasibility of legal consolidation of the emerging international organization of private detectives - the goals, objectives, structure, leadership, financing and other practical issues in deciding to create an organization - with any decision on the organization (or, yes, or not) the main issue of the meeting is the DISCUSSION AND PRACTICAL APPLICATION OF COOPERATION OF PRIVATE DETECTIVES FROM DIFFERENT REGIONS 2. Preliminary organizational issues: - The meeting is scheduled for October 1-3, 2010 in Sevastopol rsk region of Crimea. It is proposed to appoint September 30, 2010 as the day of arrival, so that arrivals will be accommodated, begin to get acquainted, and rest from the road. - October 1, 2010 in the morning, all arrivals gather at the place of discussion of issues. October 2, 2010 - making decisions on the meeting. October 2-3 - cultural program. October 4 - departure of participants. - the placement will be carried out after the exact number of participants is known (we plan to close the registration of participants before September 1, 2010, a month is a sufficient period for organizational questions on the resettlement and meals of participants) - each participant will have the opportunity to speak. All presentations will be devoted to PRACTICAL COOPERATION of the meeting participants in the future. - contributions as such will not exist. Each participant decides to transfer to the Crimea and back independently. When determining the exact number of participants, a meeting budget will be formed, which will include: a / transfer in the Crimea to Sevastopol, if there is a need b / the cost of living in a place agreed upon during final registration for other expenses agreed upon by the majority (possible rental of the hall for meetings, cultural program, etc.) - payment can be made on the bank card of the meeting organizers. I insist in advance - at the end of the meeting, the organizers MUST report to the participants on the transferred and used funds! THE RESULT OF THE MEETING should be a DEEPABLE MODEL FOR PRACTICAL COOPERATION IN THE DAY ACTIVITIES OF PRIVATE DETECTIVES, AND ALSO IN VARIOUS EMERGENCIES.

 

[Частный детектив. Дмитрий Викторчик. Беларусь. Мин]

Bem, aqui podemos falar sobre uma abordagem prática!

Proponho discutir o MODELO DE COOPERAÇÃO PRÁTICA com antecedência no fórum em um tópico separado.

Como você planeja fazer o orçamento para a reunião: vamos transferir o dinheiro antecipadamente ou pagaremos a dívida na chegada?

 

[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

Eu sugiro antes.

 

[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

Proponho discutir o MODELO DE COOPERAÇÃO PRÁTICA com antecedência no fórum em um tópico separado.

Dmitry, então crie um novo branch.

 

[Детективное агентство. Украина. Харьков. Львов.]

Caros colegas.
Meu nome é Sergey Senin (agência de detetives "ONE").

Depois de ler todas as mensagens neste tópico, gostaria de chamar sua atenção para alguns aspectos da realidade ucraniana:
1. A criação da "Associação Internacional de Detetives" é uma ótima idéia, mas em nosso país ela se tornará outra organização sem base legal, direitos, etc.
(O único propósito prático do evento na Crimeia é um conhecimento ao vivo urgentemente necessário, parceria e networking para uma cooperação mutuamente benéfica.)

A nossa Agência prepara o Congresso dos representantes das agências de detetives da Ucrânia há três meses, para o qual está prevista a criação da Associação Nacional das Agências de Detetives da Ucrânia, que regulamentará claramente as atividades neste tipo de negócio e removerá os fraudadores do mercado de serviços de detetive. Também foi planejado no congresso considerar e aprovar o projeto de Lei da Ucrânia "Sobre atividade de detetive" para apresentação à Verkhovna Rada da Ucrânia, considerar e esclarecer questões de cooperação mutuamente benéfica com a Diretoria de Assuntos Internos e o Serviço de Segurança da Ucrânia, determinação da política de preços, etc. Pretendemos convidar para o congresso representantes da alta liderança das agências de aplicação da lei e serviços especiais. Também planejamos convidar a mídia ucraniana.

2. Neste momento, a mídia está formando uma atitude negativa da pessoa média em relação ao nosso tipo de atividade.
O que isso tem a ver com a reunião dos detetives, você pergunta? Vou responder - se na Rússia os direitos de um detetive particular estão legalmente consagrados, na Ucrânia não estão. Muitas agências de detetives (e a nossa em particular) usam para "cobrir" a mídia. E, há três dias, tive de falar com um dos oficiais do departamento de Kharkov da SBU, de quem recebi a informação de que havia sido recebido um pedido para monitorar as atividades de nossas agências de "informações".

A este respeito, estamos submetendo nossa proposta para sua consideração:
Antes de realizar nosso Encontro Internacional Internacional (e nós o apoiamos totalmente e enviaremos três de nossos representantes), para realizar um Congresso de agências de detetives ucranianas em Kharkov em agosto-setembro. Vamos preparar e enviar todo o material para todos que quiserem participar.
E em outubro iremos para um encontro internacional “com a viseira aberta”, com certos objetivos e desenvolvimentos.

 

[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

Sergey, bom dia! Se você me convidar para o Congresso das agências de detetives ucranianas, ficarei feliz em ir até você. Pessoalmente, será interessante conhecê-lo.
Com todo o respeito, Andrew.