OPERATIVE SEARCH OR NARROW EVENT

[Арсен]

Dear Colleagues! I propose to discuss the law on CHODD and the Horde.
According to the law on the ARD, certain units of law enforcement agencies have the right to engage in these activities.
A private detective is forbidden to engage in O.R.D., but when carrying out detective actions, BH mi consisting of several people,
these actions are called operational investigative measures. The principle of operation of private investigators and operational units
divisions almost the same border only in words. Maybe it’s time to unify the law on hordes and the NPV into a single whole and set aside
each unit has its own limitations?

 

[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

I propose to transfer the topic to private.

 

[Патрушев Михаил Владимирович]

Dear Colleagues! I propose to discuss the law on CHODD and the Horde.
According to the law on the ARD, certain units of law enforcement agencies have the right to engage in these activities.
A private detective is forbidden to engage in O.R.D., but when carrying out detective actions, BH mi consisting of several people,
these actions are called operational investigative measures. The principle of operation of private investigators and operational units
divisions almost the same border only in words. Maybe it’s time to unify the law on hordes and the NPV into a single whole and set aside
each unit has its own limitations?

This is troublesome, Arsen! Unfortunately ... never in Russia this will ever happen. : cry:

 

[Борис Вячеславович]

I agree with Mikhail Vladimirovich, observing the level of professionalism of some modern police officers, at least in our region, with the permission of the ARD for BH, in full, they will no longer turn to the police: mrgreen:

 

[Виталий Климин]

It’s a waste of time, and it’s not worth discussing, which means it’s not necessary to transfer it anywhere ....

 

[Детективное агентство Тула]

The principle of operation of private investigators and operational units
divisions almost the same border only in words.

Maybe it’s time to unify the law on hordes and the NPV into a single whole and set aside
each unit has its own limitations?

It will be faster to combine this law and this provision, approved by Presidential Decree:

https://base.garant.ru/1351707/ and https://www.mk.ru/science/technology/art ... toboy.html

 

[Роберт]

Something you again bent a squiggle! Fantasy overpowered?

 

[Роберт]

It would be better with lawyers to discuss the legality of those activities that are already in the NPV Law. How to follow? How to make inquiries? How to conduct polls? Well and further on in the text of the Law.
What can you pull out to the maximum? And How? And do not blow bubbles.

 

[Андрей Захаров]

In principle, this topic, in my opinion, is not subject to discussion, if only for the reason that the main difference between the actions of the system of law enforcement agencies and special services that carry out the SAR and the actions of the Black Sea Regions is the fact that the Black Sea Regions can carry out certain actions (similar to those regulated by the Law on the ARD) in order to profit in the framework of entrepreneurial activity The activities of state bodies have completely different goals, indicated in the relevant laws ... Hence, the conclusion is that for the NPV, only what is permissible under the law, which does not infringe on the rights of state bodies carrying out the ARD ... Thus, the expansion of any powers of the BH is not expected should ... Which makes the discussion of this topic inappropriate ...

 

[Олегас]

I support Andrei, these are two somewhat touching, but different areas of activity.