Search Sheimis Dmitry Mikhailovich

[Мишина Татьяна]

Hello dear friends. As before, I turn to you in extremely rare cases, when everything that was undertaken independently did not bring results.
So the meaning of the search, as always, is reduced to the Great Patriotic War. In October 2013, the remains were raised by a search squad Sheimis Mikhail Mikhailovich. Born in 1897 . Work began on finding his relatives. It became known that he had a son, Alexander 1929 gr, who was in an orphanage. Data was also obtained on the wife of Sheimis Olga Aleksandrovna, born in 1899. Place of residence: Rubinskaya St., 30, apt. 1. Date of death: December 1941. Burial place: Bolsheokhtinsky cemetery. (Blockade, vol. 34)

There was a long search, as a result of which Alexander's relatives were found, he himself is no longer in this world. But by this time we received a document confirming that Sheimis Mikhail Mikhailovich 1897 gr had another son Dmitry Mikhailovich 02/25/1933 born Michael and Olga adopted in 1939.
In the blockade, Alexander and Dmitry Sheimis were evacuated to the Yaroslavl region. We tracked Alexander's path and contacted relatives who did not know anything about Dmitry for some reason.
They began to look for Dmitry, made a request to the Orphanage of the Yaroslavl region. Dmitry was in the Orphanage of Yaroslavl until 1950 and studied at a vocational school. After graduating from RU No. 2, Dmitry Sheimis, according to the data (transmission act No. 31 of 08/14/1950 graduates of the school), he is sent to Sverdlovsk (now Yekaterinburg) to work at the Sverdlovsk mechanical plant of the Stroydormashstroy min-va.

01/20/1952 Dmitry was assigned to the Kuibyshev RVC of Sverdlovsk.
his place of residence on the day of the call: Stroiuchastok St. 7-12
11/15/1952 drafted into the army.
Directed to serve in military unit No. 10142.
We no longer found any information about the passage of his service, the date of demobilization, and the place of registration with the military after service.

On this search came to a complete standstill.

I read on the site about form number 1, but the topic is closed for comment. I wanted to ask if there is an opportunity to check Sheimis Dmitry Mikhailovich 02.25.1933 gr on v.1

I read all the comments and I know that this form is valuable not only by the availability of telephones there, but also by the most important data on changes in human life. So in the primary form, wherever it is issued come data on changes in the name and other installation data !! Data on death and the issuance of other passports (wherever they are issued)

I hope that our search group will be able to help.

 

[Андрей Захаров]

Dear Tatyana)) Information about the "omnipotence" of F.1 is clearly exaggerated ... F.1 is a citizen’s application for a new passport, replacement of a passport ... This statement reflects information about the previous identity document, information about parents , registration at the place of receipt of the passport and, in principle, more and nothing significant ... In addition, this application is submitted at the place of registration of the citizen ... Thus, in order to get information about F. 1, you need to know where he is at least, I lived at the time of filing this application ... In my region (Mordovia) - I’ll look at the fact of a possible residence ... If something happens, I’ll inform ...

 

[Мишина Татьяна]

Dear Tatyana)) Information about the "omnipotence" of F.1 is clearly exaggerated ... F.1 is a citizen’s application for a new passport, replacement of a passport ... This statement reflects information about the previous identity document, information about parents , registration at the place of receipt of the passport and, in principle, more and nothing significant ... In addition, this application is submitted at the place of registration of the citizen ... Thus, in order to get information about F. 1, you need to know where he is at least, I lived at the time of filing this application ... In my region (Mordovia) - I’ll look at the fact of a possible residence ... If something happens, I’ll inform ...

Hello Andrei. Thank you very much for your help.
But according to Clause 1, I would like to tell you that it is valuable in that it marks the entire subsequent movement of all passports, wherever they are issued. And also a note about death is made in it !! even if he died in another region, the message comes to the department where the passport was issued. (where f.1 was filled out, a mark is made there !!!) Change of surname, even if it is changed in another region, changes come to f.1 originally filled out.
All subsequent passports that will be issued to the person and will be marked in primary form !!!

This is not an exaggeration !! This is the case.
Of course, in my case, the region of the initial receipt of the passport is unknown, and of course filling out Form 1, but in essence we mean that it can be either Yaroslavl or Sverdlovsk.

 

[Андрей Захаров]

Adopted by Tatyana) F.1 is an application for the issuance (replacement) of a passport ... It can be drawn up more than once ... And in different places (at the place of registration at the time of receipt of the passport) ... This should be borne in mind ... Based on the requirement that the last passport exchange is possible in 45 years (the deadline for obtaining a passport is in 1978 - a USSR passport), the last passport for the person you are looking for can be exchanged, for example, for a new passport (RF) only once (passport gr. USSR on the passport of the city of the Russian Federation, unless, of course, at that time the desired person was still alive ...) ... Based on this, and all the searches ...

 

[Мишина Татьяна]

Adopted by Tatyana) F.1 is an application for the issuance (replacement) of a passport ... It can be drawn up more than once ... And in different places (at the place of registration at the time of receipt of the passport) ... This should be borne in mind ... Based on the requirement that the last passport exchange is possible in 45 years (the deadline for obtaining a passport is in 1978 - a USSR passport), the last passport for the person you are looking for can be exchanged, for example, for a new passport (RF) only once (passport gr. USSR on the passport of the city of the Russian Federation) ... Based on this, and all the searches ...

It is quite possible that the reasons and dishonesty of the passport office specialists could not transmit data. But I write this as a former specialist. If Olga Ivanova received a passport in Moscow on the occasion of her 16th birthday, but married in Orenburg and changed her last name, then in f # 1 Moscow should inappropriately receive a message about this fact !! and a passport number should be issued, series on Olga (for another surname)

If a person received a passport in Krasnodar, and with this passport went to Kovrov for permanent residence, where he died. then a message will come to Krasnodar and a mark will be made in f.1 about his death.

 

[Андрей Захаров]

In the appendix-F.1-P ... Details of the receipt and replacement of a passport on the website of the FMS of the Russian Federation ....

 

[Мишина Татьяна]

And here is the flip side of this form !! For official marks !! Here you can learn a lot about a person.

 

[Детективное агентство ОПЦИОН]

Tatyana, good afternoon!
Unfortunately, in the Sverdlovsk region today there is no one with that name.

 

[Андрей Захаров]

Tatyana) When conducting a search, you should probably also keep in mind the following:
Well, firstly - "Form No. 1P" is an application for the issuance of a passport of a CITIZEN of the Russian Federation (after 1997)
Secondly - from 1974 to 1997 there was "Form No. 1" - this is for the USSR passport
Thirdly, until 1974 green passports were issued, and as far as I know, there was only a journal of issuance because a passport was issued for life alone and not for everyone (collective farmers did not have a passport, the military did too). Issue journals have been preserved somewhere, somewhere .... There is a full name, address and social status and that’s all .... (based on a resolution of the Council of Ministers of October 21, 1953 with the "Regulations on Passports".) And with regards to f. 1-П-in the application I published there is a downside too ... But, probably, you need to look not for Ф.1, but for the presence-absence of registration registers for issuing passports (1953 and further until 1974 (if they were preserved in archives and if not destroyed by acts) ... Although, it seems that nothing can be found ... What can I say, even the text of the “Regulations on Passports” of 1953 cannot be found ... What can we say about the registration itself, which was supposed to then ((((In our region, there is no such surname ...

 

[Гудимов Анатолий Геннадиевич]

In St. Petersburg there is no one with such data.