The order of the Ministry of Internal Affairs has tightened the differences between civil, service and

[Частный детектив. Тайный советник. Омск.]

The bullet is not stupid
Order of the Ministry of Internal Affairs toughened the differences between civilian, service and military weapons

Russian Newspaper - Federal Issue No. 5613 (237)
10/21/2011 00:45

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[10.21.2011] Order of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation of September 20, 2011 N 1020 Moscow "On approval of the Forensic Requirements of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation on the technical characteristics of civil and service weapons, as well as their cartridges"

Police experts received a document specifying the identification of weapons used in the crime. But he will concern not only forensic scientists, but also many people who own a personal arsenal.

The Minister of Internal Affairs of Russia Rashid Nurgaliev, by his order, which is published today in Rossiyskaya Gazeta, approved new criminalistic requirements for the technical characteristics of civilian and service weapons and, of course, for cartridges for them.

At first glance, the minister’s order is completely pragmatic, utilitarian and, in general, is intended purely for internal use. His requirements will help specialists in laboratories more quickly and accurately determine what the criminal was shooting from. But there is another, deeper side - the minister’s order will force many arms manufacturers and traders to review the technical parameters of their products. Yes, and “advanced” buyers will think about it, carefully reading the text of this very interesting document: is it worth it to purchase one or another “trunk” or blade? After all, it is possible that tomorrow a weapon with such characteristics may be outlawed.

Moreover, the order signed by Rashid Nurgaliyev can significantly reduce the number of street shootings, including from traumatic pistols. Most likely, the current document is the first "swallow", a kind of reconnaissance in battle, which, possibly, will entail large-scale changes in the "arms" legislation. And in industrial production. There are too many provisions here that require not only legislative confirmation, but also constructive changes in decades-long shooting brands.

The document prescribes what rifling should be in the civilian, service and combat trunks. Or, say, how to distinguish shells that flew out of the bolts of civilian and service smoothbore guns. Is it necessary to explain that precisely by these smallest marks examined under a microscope in the laboratory, the firing "gun" is calculated?

But here is the nuance. Many hunters have Simonov’s self-loading carbines. Their trunks do not differ in any way from military carbines, still standing in service with some units and subunits. For example, at the Presidential Regiment in the Kremlin. These are just alterations of army units, from which they only removed bayonets. But there are still hunting carbines for Mosin and Browning, even Mauser, Manliher, Arisaki and much more. Will future owners of this old, but reliable weapon have licensing problems? After all, rifling is fighting, that is, "wrong."

However, for forensic experts in this case, the databank - bulletproof library - removes all problems. Once every five years, the civilian owner of the “threaded” is required to shoot three to four rounds of ammunition in the police laboratory. Bullets and cartridges are numbered and saved for comparison in case criminals shoot somewhere from something similar. For detectives it will not matter if the rifles are right or wrong in your carbine. The main thing is that a man was not killed from him.

But what about the smooth-bore "shops"? Until today, the Saiga, which belonged to a private security company and private individual, differed only in the color of the forearm: according to the law, the guard's forearm should be painted white. And the shells thrown when fired from the chamber of service or personal weapons, special, specific marks do not have. Moreover, when registering smooth-bore weapons, shooting from it is not performed. That is, the police do not have an expert collection. So with what to compare? Is it necessary to assume that from now on such a shooting will be carried out? And will the service and civilian guns of the same caliber be somehow structurally different? Indeed, the order clearly states: the marks on the cartridges of the same type of cartridges in the service and civilian store smooth-bore weapons should be different.

Curiously, trimmings are technologically prohibited in the order. It should also be excluded the possibility of screwing a homemade silencer onto a civilian barrel. The section on traumatic weapons is very important in the document. Now it is called a weapon of limited destruction. Until now, it has been almost impossible to prove that the bullet and cartridge case flew precisely from this "rubber barrel". There are two reasons. A bullet when fired, and even more so hit, changes shape so much that experts have not yet come up with ways to identify it. It is easier with the sleeve: the extractor, i.e. the ejector, leaves traces on it. But there is no law obliging to draw up a traumatic sleeve case. And, accordingly, there is no cartridge case itself. Maybe the minister’s order will push for the creation of such a specific information base?

The document implies that the gas pistol should not shoot with traumatic cartridges. Until recently, these were compatible ammunition. In addition, bullets should not fly out of all gas, starting and signal pistols.

Link to the document: [DLMURL] https://www.rg.ru/2011/10/21/oruzhie.html [/ DLMURL]

 

[Евгений СБ]

Thank.

 

[НСК-СБ]

Thank you, Sergey! Very interesting, I also have one barrel, which falls under both civilian and official weapons!

 

[Частный детектив. Тайный советник. Омск.]

And mine is now called - weapons of limited destruction.

 

[@InfoPoisk]

Yes, it’s tricky, but all the same, deafness doesn’t fall under it: D: D: D

 

[Частный детектив. Timofey. Челябинск.]

Thanks interesting !!!

I wonder how the weapons will be collected which will fall under the service ...........

 

[Детективное агентство Тула]

Informative.

 

[Детективное агентство. Москва. Арбат.]

Thank.

 

[Плотников Юрий Михайлович]

Thanks, interesting.

 

[Частный детектив. Панда. Краснодар.]

Thank.