Total fingerprinting.

[Симферополь]

Total fingerprinting.

Kazakhstan is going to fingerprint all citizens

The parliament of Kazakhstan is discussing a bill on personal data, which provides for the universal collection of personal data of the population, including mass fingerprinting.

The authorities claim that the new bill is necessary to protect the rights of citizens, however, many Kazakhstanis, as well as human rights defenders and lawyers, doubt it. The idea of creating a database with personal data for all citizens of the country is not new. This proposal was first voiced back in 2001, but after criticism from the public and human rights defenders, it was rejected. The main complaint against this law was the lack of guarantees for the safety of personal information and responsibility for its leak. They also spoke about the authorities' attempt to establish total control over the population.

As it turned out, the government did not forget this idea.

According to the project, the state wants to collect and store in a single database not only the names, dates of birth and addresses of citizens, but also information about their nationality, numbers of communications, marital and social status, movable and immovable property, education, as well as biometric information: blood type , image of the iris and fingerprints.

Theoretically, citizens are going to provide an opportunity to refuse to provide their personal data, but at the same time, the authorities reserve the right to collect and process personal data of a person without his consent. This opportunity can be realized when it comes to “intelligence, counterintelligence and anti-terrorism, operational-search activities, as well as information constituting state secrets, if the prosecution authorities exercise oversight powers, protect human life, health, or other legitimate interests of a person.”

Together with the draft law "On Personal Data", another one is being considered, which proposes to establish administrative liability for violation of the procedure for processing and using personal data. However, according to many experts, one of the weakest points of the bill is the unresolved issue of protecting personal data.

Experts note that responsibility issues are spelled out in the document, and rather weak penalties are provided for disseminating data for personal or criminal purposes.

The Law on Personal Data was widely discussed at the Institute for Political Decisions. Experts met the initiative of the Ministry of Internal Affairs with caution. We have created Population Service Centers [representing the most popular state and municipal services], there are 6-7 databases there, and they are traded. These bases go illegally everywhere. And it uses racketeering. I believe that this law could not be written at all, it would be necessary to simply add one article to the Criminal Code on liability for information on individuals and legal entities, "said Sergey Zlotnikov, Executive Director of Transparency Kazakhstan.

According to the director of the scientific and consulting center of the National Telecommunication Association of Kazakhstan, Yevgeny Malishevsky, each person in his life fills out a huge number of different documents, and enough information is collected about each citizen in paper form.

“And the fact that we have already managed to switch to the electronic format is already good. The problem here is that the problem of security and protection of personal data arose due to the fact that you can immediately get a huge amount of information in a concentrated form,” says Yevgeny Malishevsky. The issue of protection comes first because any interested entity can get to your data through telecommunication networks, use it appropriately, and the most interesting thing is to make appropriate changes to them, this is very simple. The main question is: how to protect yourself? And the law doesn’t gives an answer to that. "


Many citizens associate fingerprinting primarily with criminals, and this procedure also causes criticism from ordinary people.

“I’m not some kind of gangster, why should I take fingerprints?” A student named Olzhas wonders. “Although, on the other hand, if I’m not a gangster, there’s nothing to be afraid of, let them take it off.”

“We have an extensive database of fingerprints of everyone who was once detained for criminal activity,” said Saltanat Azirbek, official representative of the Almaty Department of the Interior. “But the crime is committed not only by criminals and seasoned bandits, but also by those "Who never came into the police's sight. Of course, mass fingerprinting would make our work easier. For example, identifying unidentified corpses. Sometimes it takes too much time to identify."

Kazakh lawyer Sergei Utkin notes that one of the main problems is that the population has practically no trust in the police.

"The people are more afraid of police than bandits. I would not want to get along with this law additional ground for abuse by the Ministry of Internal Affairs," the lawyer says. "I’m afraid of the possibility of using information about me against me."


06/23/2012
Source: Air Force

 

[Витаутас. Частный детектив г. Вильнюс. Литва]

As far as I read in the world, there are only two states where bulk fingerprinting was carried out - these are Belarus and Argentina, where if my memory serves me right, fingerprinting was carried out in the 30s of the twentieth century. Now there will be a holy trinity ...

 

[D-Mass]

I don’t see anything terrible about it ... I myself have already passed it.

 

[Zhomart]

Yes, this issue has been discussed for a long time with us, but since the population is practically not actively involved in our society, this issue is mainly raised by human rights defenders, and the rest by the drum. There was such a thing that with every or any detention, delivery to the police, even Fingers were filmed in a public place in the departments on video. Some two years ago, an active citizen from my city sued the Ministry of Internal Affairs, considering it a violation of human rights and won the process in surprise. Although our brave police officer didn’t have a court order, both filmed and filmed

 

[Симферополь]

According to some reports, the constant balance of the missing, for example in Ukraine, is about 10,000 people and about the same constant number of unidentified corpses. If 10,000 missing people were fingerprinted, then 1/3 - 1/4 of the unidentified corpses could be identified. But these are the fates of people whose relatives languish in ignorance for the rest of their lives. Not to mention raising the level of crime detection and the preventive effect - a citizen who has “given up his fingers” will have to think once more before choosing whether or not to take actions for which he will have to answer. Personally, I am for such a law! And human rights defenders, as always, protect the rights of those who have something to fear.

 

[Zhomart]

From a professional point of view, as a former employee of law enforcement bodies and a forensic morgue, this is me to myself, total fingerprinting is a very necessary thing. And filming in video and photos is generally a fairy tale. Even for us, I asked a friend of the policeman, gave him a photo and he he’ll hit it on the base, well. On the other hand, I’ve got into this base and you won’t get out of it until the end of your life. Not all policemen are honest and incorruptible, because fingers can be juggled and opened up. You can use it as a way of pressure options a lot. Personally, I would not go to voluntarily take fingerprints and shoot my face on video, although I am in the database. The question is serious, there is a violation of human rights, etc. After all, when in the USA after 11 they began to tighten laws, it seems to be a bastion of democracy but Guantanomo showed that tough laws have a flip side. I can reassure everyone - we in Kazakhstan will adopt such a law without a referendum

 

[Детективное агентство ИКС-Инфо.]

I don’t see anything terrible about it ... I myself have already passed it.

And in vain ... I know several ways to "stick the right fingers in an interesting place" ...: P : D

 

[@InfoPoisk]

As far as I read in the world, there are only two states where bulk fingerprinting was carried out - these are Belarus and Argentina, where if my memory serves me right, fingerprinting was carried out in the 30s of the twentieth century. Now there will be a holy trinity ...

China is there, though it’s interesting how they fingerprint their bunch.

 

[Краев Евгений Леонидович]

Yes, this issue has been discussed for a long time with us, but since the population is practically not actively involved in our society, this issue is mainly raised by human rights defenders, and the rest by the drum. There was such a thing that with every or any detention, delivery to the police, even Fingers were filmed in a public place in the departments on video. Some two years ago, an active citizen from my city sued the Ministry of Internal Affairs, considering it a violation of human rights and won the process in surprise. Although our brave police officer didn’t have a court order, both filmed and filmed

And in our duty room it was like this: they brought it, took fingerprints and took a picture in silence. BUT, if you say right away that I don’t want to take photos and give up my fingers, they didn’t touch. Both prosecutors and the courts have already punished for this. According to the law in the Russian Federation, it is compulsory to roll not all detainees, but only those who are already detained in accordance with Article 91 of the Code of Criminal Procedure of the Russian Federation.

 

[Краев Евгений Леонидович]

I don’t see anything terrible about it ... I myself have already passed it.

And in vain ... I know several ways to "stick the right fingers in an interesting place" ...: P : D

That's for sure. And this business is not at all tricky I was rolled 4 times, and my fingers didn’t get into the general base: mrgreen: Probably my dactocard is lying somewhere in the archives