Question about Armenia !!!

[Guest]

Pause the topic, listen to the explanations (without water) of Armen, then discuss what happened and make a decision! Something like that! : oops:

 

[Детективное агентство. Инициатива. Самара.]

We are waiting in the topic of Armen. The question raised is serious enough.

 

[Симферополь]

The report, in the presented form, causes quite unequivocal emotions, but without explanation of the situation by Armen himself, one cannot talk about objectivity. I would like to hear a comment ...

 

[Орлан]

First, you need to understand what tasks were set before the start of work (point by point). Maybe the performer realized that this was what they asked to install. If other tasks were set, then of course the work was not completed in full, and it should be completed in full, or the money should be returned in full.
Need to hear the second side.

 

[Плотников Юрий Михайлович]

Pause the topic, listen to the explanations (without water) of Armen, then discuss what happened and make a decision! Something like that! : oops:

I support!

 

[Андрей Захаров]

The report, in the presented form, causes quite unequivocal emotions, but without explanation of the situation by Armen himself, one cannot talk about objectivity. I would like to hear a comment ...

I support this opinion))) In addition, I offer Armen (if he certainly agrees to the discussion), or Aziz for objectivity, so to speak, a "picture" of what happened, if possible provide a written assignment received from the customer of the services (possibly withdrawn , purely confidential information available there) ... If there was none, sorting out (objectively) probably will not work, because the opinion of each side is only an opinion and that’s all ... Only on the basis of the scope of the tasks set, it will probably be possible to conclude on the quality of their implementation ... Something like this ... Based on this (this is my personal opinion, not imposed on anyone), nevertheless, it’s probably worthwhile in the future to pay special attention to the execution of contracts and the tasks attached to them (preferably in writing and more specifics) as suggested earlier ... Of course, the preparation of written documents, as many colleagues have argued, will not help to avoid meetings with "non-respectable" partners ... However, this will help to understand the situation and draw a definite conclusion about the integrity, or non-integrity of possible partners (an objective-written task, a written report ... The principle is, what question is this and the answer). .. It is precisely for this reason that similar documents are being compiled (in case of a disputed relationship) ... And another question is what status the Forum discusses is Armen Hayrapetyan (Yerevan) and before whether it was posed at all ... If not presented at all, this topic is simply a topic for discussion, but not for making any decisions (personal opinion ...) ...

 

[Азиз]

or Aziz for the objectivity, so to speak, of a "picture" of what happened, if possible provide a task in writing received from the customer of the services (possibly with the seized, purely confidential information available there) ...

You are welcome!

According to paragraph 1.1.

Everyone understands in their own way “Collection of relevant legal information”, in the opinion of Armen it seems that the information provided in his report fully complies with the requirements. Now the question is: what kind of information would you like to receive in case you came across a scam company? And now I ask you to analyze the information in the "report" of Armen. So how? Is this information relevant or not? Everyone has their own opinion, but one must be honest. Okay, I can believe that the information in the report is true, but how can I explain this to the client? How? To say that one grandmother said that the representative of this fraudulent company is called Pugovkin Pupok and that he is guarded by enhanced security? Where is the photo? Where is the date of birth, address? These are standard requirements !!! The international center "Armenak Group" is not a Microsoft company, since they provide legal services, the information must be fixed in some way and this is a normal requirement of the client. One more question, if the Chinese "partners" of Armen failed to establish the date of birth of this Pugovkin Pupka, what can they do at all? Is it logical? Agree with me or not? When claims were made, Armen replied that he and his “partners” had done everything they could. And why the client also did not pay as much as he could? A specific task was set for Armen, he announced the amount and received it, and this "report" in the eyes of the client is only an unsubscribe, and in principle, in mine too. Armen got what he wanted? And why the client did not receive what he wanted? Right? Over the past year, I managed to work several times with respectable people from the forum, as a result of which they became very close friends for me, by the way, I worked with them without any contracts.

And now on point 1.2.

And this is the Lord, according to Armen, the second stage! After you receive the “final” report of Armen, laid out above, will you risk the second stage, for which you need to pay a different amount? The answer to this question begs itself: lol:.

And now I would like to draw a conclusion, since the client no longer needs another “report” of Armen, and he does not need the money paid by him (a very solid person), I think it will be fair if Armen, as a person who values his reputation, is personally financially he will evaluate his “report”, and what will remain (if of course he remains: lol :, then everything is on conscience of Armen) will be returned to the client’s account. Do you know what the client told me? He said to me: "Okay, Aziz, don’t worry, consider that you and I have tasted Chinese dishes in Yerevan." Money is a matter of gain, and respect, authority and reputation of FIGs can be earned so easily, for this you need to WORK, and not say big words like some do!

 

[Азиз]

And another question is, in what status is the forum discussed by us Armen Hayrapetyan (Yerevan) presented and whether it is presented at all ... If not presented at all, this topic is just a topic for discussion, but not for making any decisions (personal opinion ...) ...

Armen is represented on the forum. Here is the link.

index.php? threads / 7781

 

[Андрей Захаров]

That's just returning to the topic of drafting agreements))) What question is this answer))) The questions in the assignment must be posed concrete, without vague wording (this will then avoid rumors). And the collection of some information (not even determined which one specifically) - assumes virtually the same answer: lol: So you should probably think about how to formulate the tasks in the contract correctly, and then make any claims to the contractor ... This topic has already been discussed -Area of cooperation ... Very it is difficult (in the absence of a specific task) to determine whether it has been completed or not ... When answering the question about the possible identification of a possibly unscrupulous partner during the task, we again rest on the specifics - put (in writing) before the contractor not a vague, but a specific task (in including indicate that it is necessary to establish complete installation data (for example, full name, date of birth, place of birth, registration address, address of the actual residence, etc. (what you need), be sure to indicate in the assignment that you need photos, videos, audio materials confirming the established facts, etc.) If the assignment of these circumstances does not indicate, hence the misunderstanding ... In terms of setting specific tasks, I personally like the approach to this issue from the project "Mystery shopper" ... (akin to our activity, also collecting information, only of a certain nature). Who has the desire, look ... Many people work in this project , with which written agreements are not concluded, but there is a logo when receiving a TA for a specific task, in which everything is written down to the smallest detail (up to the behavior in the test object) ... The absence of misunderstandings in this matter allows not only to qualitatively complete the task, but also then check the quality of its implementation and, of course, to resolve the issue (in the case of the qualitative fulfillment of a specific task) about the payment for the services of a "data collector" ...

 

[Андрей Захаров]

And another question is, in what status is the forum discussed by us Armen Hayrapetyan (Yerevan) presented and whether it is presented at all ... If not presented at all, this topic is just a topic for discussion, but not for making any decisions (personal opinion ...) ...

Armen is represented on the forum. Here is the link.

https://detective-agency.info/ru/vie ... = 22 & t = 7781

Then, it is mandatory to invite him to this topic, listen to his position and, probably, make a decision ...