Bailiffs plus detectives of Buryatia

[Марат]

BARRIERS PLUS DETECTIVES OF BURYATIA - FEAR AND AWAKENING OF THE DEBTOR ...
Date of publication: 06/22/2013 19:03
Source: Irktorgnews.ru
Place of publication: Irkutsk

In the neighboring republic, the bailiff service entered into agreements with personnel and detective agencies. This will help the Buryat bailiffs obtain information on debtors.
According to the press service of the department, cooperation agreements were also concluded with private security companies, a specialized receiver for persons suspected and accused of committing crimes, a temporary detention center, and a duty unit of the republic’s Ministry of Internal Affairs.
So, the first information about the debtor came from a temporary detention center, which was detained for driving while intoxicated. The officers of the bailiff service went to the detention center and handed over to the detainee, who had been hiding from the bailiffs for a long time, procedural documents on initiating the case, as well as the requirements to pay off the debts.
In another case, at the request of search specialists, a recruitment agency provided information about the alimony. The bailiffs became aware of his contact phone number, as well as the place of actual residence. The information received made it possible to meet with the debtor, and after his employment measures will be taken to recover child support.
Detective agencies, obviously, will also participate in the capture of debtors: it is assumed that private investigators will share information on criminal elements that is available in their archives or obtained in the course of their own investigations.
By inf. East Teleinform

 

[Андрей Захаров]

Thank you Marat))) The practice is in principle positive ... However, how the BH will be involved in this case is not entirely clear, because. BHs are all just entrepreneurs who are required by law to maintain the confidentiality of the information received in the course of work on fulfilling orders ... The paradox of our being ...

 

[Марат]

Thank you Marat))) The practice is in principle positive ... However, how the BH will be involved in this case is not entirely clear, because. BHs are all just entrepreneurs who are required by law to maintain the confidentiality of the information received in the course of work on fulfilling orders ... The paradox of our being ...

Maybe conclude an agreement with the exactors on the search for the debtor? (of course, in cooperation with the FSSP). Two months ago, I was in the head office of the FSSP in the Sverdlovsk Region and talked with the head of one of the district departments. He told me that this is possible, you need to contact the search department and there to clarify everything. I certainly didn’t get to this point, but in the near future I will solve this issue.

 

[Андрей Захаров]

In principle, of course this is true, all the more such opportunities are currently provided by the Law on Honest Detective and Security Activities ... Such agreements for tracing a debtor and children can be concluded (but only with targeted clients) ... However, the whole problem will probably be with payment services (at whose expense) and in the tariffs for this service ... The search is a costly affair ... And it is unlikely that anyone will "subscribe" to such a service from the Black Sea (if there is a state body that should deal with these issues) ... Although it’s possible there are such people ... And if you "filter" all the people who fall into the sphere of interest of the BH when fulfilling a specific order, you need to check all the people through the UFSSP database (open access) and then also "hand over" the person involved, so to tell the authorities ... And we need this ... Moreover, the Law does not say anything about debtors (not persons who committed a crime) in the Law ... Although, in principle, this state of affairs (conclusion of an agreement on cooperation) wanted kov with UFSSP) can be used in the interests of the client under a specific contract ... As part of collecting information on a specific order and using the opportunity to "merge" the right person (if he has debts) in UFSSP ... Also an option ...

 

[Азаревич Василий Валентинович]

The agreement was signed in October 2012, but the point is this, the “piece of paper”, as we were explained at a working meeting at ROSP, the payment will be made at the client’s expense, information (report) will be provided to the customer and the Social Insurance Fund, after which the bailiff will go to " in the wake of the detectives. I already wrote about this on the forum, and the agreement was dropped, the agreement is on the site https://lsgroup.com.ua/mezhdunarodnaya-n ... raine.html
For all this time there was not one more client according to this scheme: D

 

[Марат]

Thanks for the link provided. In his old days, he worked in a commissioned organization. Claimants and debtors were very different. There were those who could pay good money for indicating the place of residence of the hiding debtor. It is necessary to make contacts with the management of departments. I think they will appeal, "not so, so"

 

[Андрей Захаров]

Marat, but look at statistics on the search for debtors and property for 6 months of 2013, for example, in our region (and the situation will probably be everywhere the same) ...
During the 6 months of 2013, search bailiffs opened 333 investigation cases (APPG-318) for a total of 19 million 923 thousand rubles (APPG-26 million 982 thousand), the balance of the search cases at the beginning of 2013 of the year amounted to 170 search cases (APPG - 47).
205 search cases were terminated in the reporting period, 187 of which were on the wanted list (debtor - citizen - 164 (118 - on maintenance obligations), 22 - on the search for the property of the debtor), (APPG-205, of which the wanted list was 131 (the debtor - a citizen - 70 (41 - for maintenance obligations), 60 - to search for property of the debtor, without search and for other reasons - 18 (APPG - 74).
The effectiveness of search activity was 56.1% (APPG 41.2%).
Categories of prosecutions:
on the search for a debtor-citizen - 83.8%, of which 62.2% of the total number of established search cases and 74.2% of the number of search cases on search of debtor-citizens;
in favor of credit organizations - 6.3%;
for the collection of transport tax - 2.4%;
on the search for the debtor of the organization - 0.9%;
others - 15%. (property of the debtor (citizen / organization).
Based on these statistics, the bulk of the wanted people are maintenance workers ... But in principle, you won’t get any money from child support orders ... Something like this ... Look at the site of your regional UFSSP search section and there you will see a real picture of your region. .. At the same time, it is also necessary to bear in mind that finding a debtor does not mean recovering money from him ... And the customer will bear the real costs of the search ...

 

[Марат]

The problem with the collection is no longer our problem Thanks for the answer!