Armed Russians want to oblige to wear special vests

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Armed Russians want to oblige to wear special vests
05: 01/29/2018
(updated: 10:41 01/29/2018)

MOSCOW, Jan 29 - RIA News. The State Duma is developing a bill that will oblige weapon owners to wear special vests or identification marks, like law enforcement officers do. This was told by the author of the initiative, deputy head of the Just Russia faction Oleg Nilov.

According to him, the innovations will affect all owners of firearms - hunting, rifled, traumatic, there are up to eight million people in Russia.

"Once a person took a gun with him, it must be identified so that everyone around him knows about this fact, so that he and the police and security forces can see him, who could at any time check whether the citizen meets all the requirements," said Nilov " Parliamentary newspaper "

In addition, as stated in the bill, the owner of the weapon should not take it to public places and places of entertainment.
In October, the director of the Russian Guard, Viktor Zolotov, said that the Russians were not ready for mass possession of weapons "neither economically nor psychologically."

In his opinion, everyday situations affect people, in a stressful state they are ready to "apply it both with and without cause."
RIA News The State Duma proposed to put armed Russians in special vests

 

[Патрушев Михаил Владимирович]

Thank you Andrey!
Bullshit of course ......
Apparently there is nothing for our deputies to do, and they are inventing crazy laws!

 

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Yes, Mikhail, of course, nonsense ... Although hunters were already obliged to wear yellow or red signal vests, like those of traffic cops, on collective hunts.

 

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But drivers, too, were obliged to wear vests in the dark on the highway ...

 

[Группа К]

Yes, Mikhail, of course, nonsense ... Although hunters were already obliged to wear yellow or red signal vests, like those of traffic cops, on collective hunts.

You just need to put on some extra vests that remained after the traffic cops were fired.

 

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At most there are several trunks, I think that members of the forum also have a lot. Here is the material in the topic of trunks:

Weapon check: who should open the door and what you need to know

Since the creation of the Russian Guard and the transfer of arms control functions to the new structure, many questions have arisen. One of them, who and how will check the conditions of storage of weapons with citizens? Previously, this function was assigned to the district commissioners. After the emergence of a new structure, uncertainty arose: in the past, inspectors and district officers were subordinate to the same authorities and, after all, depended on each other; now everyone has their own bosses and their own responsibilities.

The problem gradually manifested itself and became more acute.

There was an idea to give all the functions of checking storage conditions in LRR, but it seems that this idea was a failure; in addition, far from everywhere, especially in rural areas and remote areas, this is generally possible.

The result was a joint order of the Russian Guard and the Ministry of Internal Affairs on the procedure for conducting inspections: “Order of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia and the Federal Service of the National Guard of the Russian Federation of August 18, 2017 No. 652/360“ On some issues of police participation in measures to control the provision of storage conditions ... "Published on December 14, 2017.

The order was signed by the heads of two departments, respectively V. Zolotov and V. Kolokoltsev.

This order clarifies when and in what cases the police check and what they should do in case of violations.

" 1. This Procedure governs the participation of the police in measures to control the storage (preservation) of civilian, service, military and premium weapons, ammunition, ammunition for weapons owned or temporarily used by citizens of the Russian Federation. "

The reason for the audit should now be a request:

"3. A request signed by the heads (chiefs) or other authorized officials of the licensing and permitting units of the Federal Service of the National Guard of the Russian Federation is sent to the territorial body of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia at the district level, if the citizen's place of residence is a rural settlement or a remote, inaccessible area in which there is no subdivision of the territorial body of the Russian Guard, if it is impossible to conduct verification activities independently in cases of citizens contacting the Russian Guard or its territorial bodies on the following issues:
3.1. Extending the validity or renewal of permits (licenses) for the storage, storage and carrying of weapons.

3.2. Acquisition (temporary use) of weapons and ammunition.

3.3. Violations of the conditions for storage (preservation) of weapons and cartridges owned or temporarily used by citizens. ”

"five. During the audit, it is established:

5.1. Compliance of the storage conditions of weapons and ammunition with the requirements of paragraphs 59, 60 and 61 of the Rules for the turnover of civilian and service weapons and their ammunition in the territory of the Russian Federation.

5.2. Compliance of the models, quantity, series, numbers of weapons, as well as the caliber of cartridges and their quantity with the credentials specified in the licenses for the purchase of weapons and (or) cartridges, or permits for storage, storage and carrying of weapons.
6. The results of the audit are documented by an act of inspection of the storage conditions of weapons and cartridges. The inspection certificate is drawn up in two copies, one of which, upon completion of the inspection, is handed over to the citizen - the owner of the weapon personally (against signature). ”

In general, little has changed for the owners of weapons; now the LRR employees and authorized police officers can check the storage conditions if there is a request from the Russian Guard.

Alexander Kudryashov January 15, 2018
Weapon check: who needs to open the door and what you need to know - Weapons - Okhotniki.ru

 

[Патрушев Михаил Владимирович]

Yes, Mikhail, of course, nonsense ... Although hunters were already obliged to wear yellow or red signal vests, like those of traffic cops, on collective hunts.

Yes, maybe they are ... right!
But the rest of the questions ....!?

 

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Yes, maybe they are ... right!
But the rest of the questions ....!?

According to the bill, a man with a gun or a gun should be designated in the same way as a policeman. It can be an icon or a bright vest like that worn on the hunt.
If a citizen does not comply with the order and does not wear an identification mark, this will entail punishment. And if he uses weapons in the absence of a special vest or badge, this will be an aggravating circumstance, even if the citizen defended himself.
For example, a person with a weapon can in no case be intoxicated. He should not take weapons to public places, places of entertainment, or to transport, the deputy explained.

While the ban on carrying weapons is valid only on airplanes, it must be surrendered during the flight.

In addition, the parliamentarian is working on a bill prohibiting the carrying of cold steel with a blade length of more than 5-6 centimeters.

“The knives that carry out most crimes are dangerous cold weapons. But carrying such a weapon is not a crime, and hence permissiveness, which today is the main reason for stabbing, ”Oleg Nilov explained.
In Soviet times, carrying cold steel was already a criminal article, you could carry only penknives with a minimum blade size, the parliamentarian recalled.

The bill, which will affect millions of owners of knives, will be introduced in a package with initiatives on the identification of owners of weapons and the video recording of the use of firearms. Before this, the short stories will be submitted for expert discussion.

Maria Sokolova January 29, 2018 at 05:39
Weapon owners may be required to wear identification marks - Hunting - Okhotniki.ru

 

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The law on weapons clearly spells out: p. 68 of the Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation 814, according to which it is necessary to observe safety rules for outsiders. This means that wearing (open or hidden) should exclude access to the weapons of others, which you perform using a holster. The recommendations of experts on hidden wearing are reduced, first of all, to the following: when carrying a weapon, demonstrativeness should be avoided, which will minimize the attention of citizens to you.

What vests and other crap can also be attached to the holster on the belly for publicity.
So it turns out easier and cheaper to carry the left trunk in general.

All these deputy prostitutes from the evil one, villains do not need any permissions and finding iron is not a problem for them.

On the contrary, it is necessary to allow respectable citizens, after a thorough check, a rifled short barrel, so that the villains know that it is possible to get a real answer too ..

 

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On the contrary, it is necessary to allow respectable citizens, after a thorough check, a rifled short barrel, so that the villains know that it is possible to get a real answer too ..

The number of crimes last year with the use of registered firearms is 0.017% of the total number of crimes with the use of firearms ... !!!