Installation To punch a man.

[Андрей Захаров]

Installation How to punch a person.

In practice, quite often one has to face the need for such an event, called "Installation". The concept of installation is given in the Law of the Russian Federation on the ARD. This concept is in principle applicable to our activities. Although not always, using the means at our disposal, regulated by the Law, it is possible to fully realize the possibilities of this event.

So what is this “Installation” in relation to BH activities?

In our opinion, “Installation” is a set of measures to identify certain facts of an individual’s activities. It is implemented by means of the private detective’s permitted methods of obtaining information, namely, making inquiries, including monitoring publicly available Internet sources, visual observation, by examining various objects, documents, interviewing various people, using the information in their own information resources. The amount of information during this event may be the following.

- Full installation data of the individual (name, date and place of birth, place of registration, place of actual residence, TIN, possibly SNILS)

- the family composition of the facility with full installation data (parents, brothers, sisters, spouse, children, possibly more distant kinship)

- place of official employment of the facility

- place of official employment of family members of the facility

- place of actual employment of the facility

- place of actual employment of family members of the facility

- possible affiliation of the object to the activities of commercial enterprises

- possible affiliation of family members of the facility to the activities of commercial enterprises

- possible friendly and other relations of the object

- possible friendly and other relations of family members of the object

- details of identity documents of the object, providing rights

- details of documents proving the identity of the family members of the facility, providing rights

- the ownership of an immovable and movable property subject to registration

- the presence in the ownership of family members of an immovable and movable property subject to registration

- credit history (credit load) of the object

- credit history of the family members of the object

- checking the availability of accounts belonging to the object in banks

- checking the availability of accounts belonging to family members of the facility in banks

- information on cash flows in the accounts of the object

- information on the movement of funds on the accounts of family members of the object

- the presence of telephone numbers of cellular operators registered at the facility

- the presence of telephone numbers of cellular operators registered at the facility

- collection of information from publicly available sources about the activities of the facility using its own information resources (using Internet resources)

- collection of information from public sources about the activities of the facility

- a survey of acquaintances (relatives of varying degrees of kinship, neighbors, people with whom he worked or works) of the object in order to identify information about his life.

- other information (to be specified during the formation of the installation task)

It should be borne in mind that a private detective can collect this information only if this information does not represent any of the secrets protected by the Law and the protection of which is guaranteed by the state. This list of activities can be useful and used in planning the activities of a private detective, in which you must take into account the relevant prohibitions on obtaining information specified in the Law "On Private Detective and Security Activities in the Russian Federation."

 

[Наумов Александр]

I agree with Andrew. This is all, and even more, can be clarified by installing at the address (person).
However, our Law was written a very long time ago, in comparison with current realities.
The question is whether the person (applicant) will be able to prove (and law enforcement officers will accept it) that this information is his personal (family) secret, which is protected by the Constitution and the Criminal Code under Art. 137.
Itself faced it at the beginning of this year. While stretching sluggishly.
In general, you have rights, but if the UK is against it, then hello the article. As the saying goes, there would be a person, but there will be an article.
Therefore, I ask you to take this and other activities very seriously.

 

[БНР]

Andrey, good afternoon! I have a question. Would this not contradict the requirements of the Law "On Personal Data and its Protection"? In my opinion, there are legal risks. It is clear that this can be collected, I mean the case if someone disputes the legality of collecting such information.

 

[Андрей Захаров]

Hello Rustam! This article does not urge anyone to violate any rules .... It simply indicates that when drawing up any plan for any information collection activities, it is possible to take into account what information is desirable to collect in order to objectively see what a person is like represents .... no more .... And in case of a specific event, you yourself have to look to see if there are any risks of breaking the law or not when collecting the necessary information .... something like that ....

 

[Арсен]

Andrey Valerievich, good afternoon!
Great event plan. The main thing is to allow it.
Private Investigation, I mean it in the current legislative realities, is an analogue of Illegal Intelligence, namely, SVR.
According to the Law on BH and ML, this event can only be held with the consent of the person in respect of whom the event is being held (which is absurd).
None of such events can be held entirely within the legal framework and in no way violate the Law.
A person, carrying out such events, whether it be BH, an operative or a scout, crosses the border of the Law. Defending the rights and interests of one subject, he violates (at least partially)
the rights and interests of another.
And if the BH wants to carry out its activities in full compliance with the requirements of the Law (neither a step to the left, nor a step to the right), then it is better to refuse to engage in this activity.

 

[Yelena]

Nowadays, only homeless people do not appear on the Internet and do not leave information about themselves. And the majority of people will necessarily be "marked" somewhere. And if they expose information about themselves voluntarily, then why is this considered a violation? There are many cases of searching for data about a person on the Internet. They can be gleaned:
1. From the site of bailiffs. Even without knowing the date of birth and region of residence, several alleged entities may appear in the information, one of which may be necessary.
2. From records of individual entrepreneurs who even closed their IP. Many register their company at their home address.
3. With ads on Avito. Using the existing phone number, you can calculate the name and surname of the person, as well as the address that many indicate in the ads when selling something.
4. In social networks - just a wide open space. Dates of birth, last names, names of relatives signed under the photo, photo on the background of the place of work and from the place of work. VK some write their phone numbers, cities of residence are written by almost everyone.
5. Telephone directories - online in many cities, especially large ones, they give out information about people, their addresses and dates of birth.
Experienced detectives are aware of all this and are confident that they can continue my list. Well, much of what Andrey Valerievich has listed, we all know where we can get it. But I think that it will be illegal.

 

[OSBSO]

- Hello! Can you punch a person?
- Not! We are not involved in physical abuse!
Maybe the comrades of detectives also have a technique, how to guess what the customer needs exactly without the help of a psychic and without asking a bunch of questions?
And then constantly with a mysterious look they ask to "punch", but always this very "punch" implies the receipt of completely different information.
The list, of course, is good, but based on practice, the full range of information is usually not required. Depending on the situation, 2-3 or even one point is enough.

 

[Александр Дицель]

Installation How to punch a person.

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In practice, quite often one has to face the need for such an event, called "Installation". The concept of installation is given in the Law of the Russian Federation on the ARD. This concept is in principle applicable to our activities. Although not always, using the means at our disposal, regulated by the Law, it is possible to fully realize the possibilities of this event.

So what is this “Installation” in relation to BH activities?

In our opinion, “Installation” is a set of measures to identify certain facts of an individual’s activities. It is implemented by means of the private detective’s permitted methods of obtaining information, namely, making inquiries, including monitoring publicly available Internet sources, visual observation, by examining various objects, documents, interviewing various people, using the information in their own information resources. The amount of information during this event may be the following.

- Full installation data of the individual (name, date and place of birth, place of registration, place of actual residence, TIN, possibly SNILS)

- the family composition of the facility with full installation data (parents, brothers, sisters, spouse, children, possibly more distant kinship)

- place of official employment of the facility

- place of official employment of family members of the facility

- place of actual employment of the facility

- place of actual employment of family members of the facility

- possible affiliation of the object to the activities of commercial enterprises

- possible affiliation of family members of the facility to the activities of commercial enterprises

- possible friendly and other relations of the object

- possible friendly and other relations of family members of the object

- details of identity documents of the object, providing rights

- details of documents proving the identity of the family members of the facility, providing rights

- the ownership of an immovable and movable property subject to registration

- the presence in the ownership of family members of an immovable and movable property subject to registration

- credit history (credit load) of the object

- credit history of the family members of the object

- checking the availability of accounts belonging to the object in banks

- checking the availability of accounts belonging to family members of the facility in banks

- information on cash flows in the accounts of the object

- information on the movement of funds on the accounts of family members of the object

- the presence of telephone numbers of cellular operators registered at the facility

- the presence of telephone numbers of cellular operators registered at the facility

- collection of information from publicly available sources about the activities of the facility using its own information resources (using Internet resources)

- collection of information from public sources about the activities of the facility

- a survey of acquaintances (relatives of varying degrees of kinship, neighbors, people with whom he worked or works) of the object in order to identify information about his life.

- other information (to be specified during the formation of the installation task)

It should be borne in mind that a private detective can collect this information only if this information does not represent any of the secrets protected by the Law and the protection of which is guaranteed by the state. This list of activities can be useful and used in planning the activities of a private detective, in which you must take into account the relevant prohibitions on obtaining information specified in the Law "On Private Detective and Security Activities in the Russian Federation."

I will argue a bit with the author.
Firstly, in the Federal Law "On the ARD" there is no such thing as "Installation", probably the ORM "Inquiries" is more suitable, I judge from the one described in the article.
Secondly, the "Installation", or rather, the OS is one of the 6 methods of the ARD, which in itself is a state. it’s secret and is carried out only to the address, that is, in short, the object of the DT is the address, and not like a person!
In this connection, I, as a person versed in this branch of law, do not quite understand this article, especially its table of contents. Probably it would be more correct to call "Collection of information about the person" object "sources and methods for its receipt."

 

[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

Hello! Can you punch a person?
- Not! We are not involved in physical abuse!
Maybe the comrades of detectives also have a technique, how to guess what the customer needs exactly without the help of a psychic and without asking a bunch of questions?
And then constantly with a mysterious look they ask to "punch", but always this very "punch" implies the receipt of completely different information.
The list, of course, is good, but based on practice, the full range of information is usually not required. Depending on the situation, 2-3 or even one item is enough

No need to generalize ...
The client is different.

 

[Андрей Захаров]

I will argue a bit with the author.
Firstly, in the Federal Law "On the ARD" there is no such thing as "Installation", probably the ORM "Inquiries" is more suitable, I judge from the one described in the article.
Secondly, the "Installation", or rather, the OS is one of the 6 methods of the ARD, which in itself is a state. it’s secret and is carried out only to the address, that is, in short, the object of the DT is the address, and not like a person!
In this connection, I, as a person versed in this branch of law, do not quite understand this article, especially its table of contents. Probably it would be more correct to call "Collection of information about the person" object "sources and methods for its receipt."

The concept of “Installation” is, in principle, not contained in the above-mentioned Law on the ARD ... and this is true .... But there is its concept in the specialized literature published on the interpretation of the norms of this Law .... And in principle, Installation is not only work at the address, and a set of measures that include various methods of obtaining information aimed at establishing a certain fact .... For example, the same fact of living at a certain address, establishing a specific "connection" of an object with a certain circle of people, etc. .. I see no other reason to argue ... I myself have worked in this system for more than one year ... and not even ten)))) Well, okay .... thank you for your opinion ....