What legal field are you working in now?

[dron]

I have accumulated questions for our detectives.
1. After changes to the law of private security and detective activities, what has changed in the life of a private detective? Was it easier for him to work or not? Has he become more protected in his rights or not? Does the interests of his client and licensing (i.e. overseeing his activities) come into conflict with the ATS, and what does he do if there are any such contradictions?
2. The dissolution of the Security Council, organized by enterprises. To whom are their functions transferred? Who should now deal with information, personnel, economic security at the enterprise? Or maybe not at the enterprise - did the police take over these functions? Lawyers of the enterprise, or maybe even personnel officers? Or is everything done by the employer in a single person?
Who will now conduct personnel dossiers at the enterprise without breaking the law? What should I do if you are refused to fill out a questionnaire on the pretext of distrusting a person who collects information about personal data?

 

[Частный детектив. Владивосток.]

Andrey, are you preparing an article?

 

[dron]

The purpose of this is not to write an article, although it is an interesting idea, you need to work on it, and reach out to a potential customer of expertise or research. After all, it is he who is separated from us by the information vacuum. Previously, the Security Council was a kind of bridge, or rather its sneaky representatives, who could smell where and how to solve problems, and now ???????? : cry:

 

[Частный детектив. Владивосток.]

Life, of course, has become better ... Even more fun!
And why should the Security Council disband? Am I missing something in the legislation? Forbidden to protect the interests of the enterprise?
Well, just as I kept a dossier without breaking the law, so I keep ... Nothing has changed!
Well, they will refuse to fill out, and dick with it ... Take a walk, chew sawdust ... We have no irreplaceable! Take another!

 

[dron]

Read the Law on Occupational Health and Safety In its new edition, the concepts of Security Services are excluded from it. : oops: It is clear that in Russia the severity of laws is compensated by their failure to comply. But still, if we are talking about bogus services, which in an instant became illegal? The selection of personnel is not the most important task that the Security Council performed, but the collection of initial documents for the same law enforcement system if an emergency occurred that cannot be hidden. etc. Now this is not in the law. Therefore, here on this forum I want to understand: since where something came from, it means it must arrive somewhere. And where exactly did it come?

 

[Детективное агентство Москва.]

Read the Law on Occupational Health and Safety In its new edition, the concepts of Security Services are excluded from it. : oops: It is clear that in Russia the severity of laws is compensated by their failure to comply. But still, if we are talking about bogus services, which in an instant became illegal? The selection of personnel is not the most important task that the Security Council performed, but the collection of initial documents for the same law enforcement system if an emergency occurred that cannot be hidden. etc. Now this is not in the law. Therefore, here on this forum I want to understand: since where something came from, it means it must arrive somewhere. And where exactly did it come?

Andrey, so that the concept of Security Council is excluded from the law - this is not even bad. After all, no one forbade the owner of the business to protect him. Yes, earlier the provision on the security service had to be agreed upon in the permit, 6-7 years ago (if my memory serves me, since the list of activities subject to licensing was issued), the authorization system had ceased to coordinate them, and now they completely removed the Security Council from the law. At many major enterprises, the security, business protection, business support, etc. divisions are still actively working.
I quit a year and a half ago from the security department of the Renault NISSAN group. The deportation has been successfully working without me even now.

 

[Саратов-Алиби]

Everything is fine, we are cheerful, happy, happy !!!
Life has become better, life has become happier !!! otherwise it cannot be in our country.
Let them amend, issue laws, only let us not be outlawed !!! : twisted:: twisted:: twisted:

 

[ДНК]

I have accumulated questions for our detectives.
1. After changes to the law of private security and detective activities, what has changed in the life of a private detective? Was it easier for him to work or not? Has he become more protected in his rights or not? Does the interests of his client and licensing (i.e. overseeing his activities) come into conflict with the ATS, and what does he do if there are any such contradictions?
2. The dissolution of the Security Council, organized by enterprises. To whom are their functions transferred? Who should now deal with information, personnel, economic security at the enterprise? Or maybe not at the enterprise - did the police take over these functions? Lawyers of the enterprise, or maybe even personnel officers? Or is everything done by the employer in a single person?
Who will now conduct personnel dossiers at the enterprise without breaking the law? What should I do if you are refused to fill out a questionnaire on the pretext of distrusting a person who collects information about personal data?

1. YES - it didn’t become easier, they simply didn’t ... but there were a lot of other organizations, including detectives and security agencies and lawyers and auditors, etc. ..... to single detectives look, it didn’t get worse (including a simplified approach to the report on work, etc.) ... I didn’t notice a contradiction with the client and the Department of Internal Affairs (the thing is different - not everyone who called us can and should be our client - offers a client, such as breaking a phone or following her husband, will definitely go against the supervision and control, and therefore there simply should not be such clients);
2. SB - did not become legal or independent entities, but inside a private enterprise there can and should be a unit responsible for security issues and the owner of this enterprise has the right to vest certain individuals (SB) with certain powers, including verifying (with their consent) persons job-seekers, conducting an internal audit, etc. .... the best example for this is banks - look, they have SB like that, they are simply named differently, and the functions are the same and everything is within the law and with consent customers ...

 

[Частный детектив. Владивосток.]

Read the Law on Occupational Health and Safety In its new edition, the concepts of Security Services are excluded from it. : oops: It is clear that in Russia the severity of laws is compensated by their failure to comply. But still, if we are talking about bogus services, which in an instant became illegal? The selection of personnel is not the most important task that the Security Council performed, but the collection of initial documents for the same law enforcement system if an emergency occurred that cannot be hidden. etc. Now this is not in the law. Therefore, here on this forum I want to understand: since where something came from, it means it must arrive somewhere. And where exactly did it come?

Andrei, with all due respect, but ... you just do not own the operational environment! NOBODY AND NEVER registered the Security Council in the licensing system, if registered, these are isolated cases ... There was no responsibility for the lack of registration of the Security Council, but in order to avoid a conflict with the system, sometimes the Security Council was called just a control service, a regime service, etc. There is no word "security" - no questions!
Removed this question from the law? And thank God! But this does not mean that the Security Council will disappear from the structures of enterprises. Why should they fade? What nonsense?

 

[Частный детектив Краснослободцев Дмитрий Николаеви]

One acquaintance has transformed from a deputy director of security to a deputy for general matters.