short-barreled weapons older than 100 years

[Елена Королёва]

Colleagues need advice, a client asked a question: does he want to buy abroad short-barreled weapons older than 100 years that are not armed and without ammunition?
For example, a revolver of the Nagan system. Is this realistic in the Russian Federation and what is needed for this?

 

[Виталий Жук]

But to be honest - there are two ways.
1. With the adoption of a new customs code (let him burn in hell) - the import of antique weapons - is allowed. You need to have a collector license. Haemorrhoids.
As an option, an examination is possible. According to which - he is recognized as a historical weapon and will be given the go-ahead for import.
2. The second option - CORRECTLY deactivate. Those. deactivate with possible reactivation. To issue an import - like MMG. Will have to certify.
Import of MMG (certified according to law) is allowed.
We import MMG. Reactivate. We give it to experts. They recognize historical weapons. We own.

There is a certain regulation - according to which only pistols are subject to import until 1895, inclusive - EXCLUDING weapons under the unitary cartridge of a central battle ...
Those. Nagan is problematic ... Russian Smith-Wesson is not.

 

[Виталий Жук]

Regulation to paragraph 2.22




on the procedure for import into the customs territory of the customs union, export from the customs territory of the customs union and transit through the customs territory of the customs union of civil and service weapons, its main parts and cartridges for it
1. These Regulations on the procedure for the import into the customs territory of the customs union (hereinafter - import), export from the customs territory of the customs union (hereinafter - export) and transit through the customs territory of the customs union (hereinafter - transit) of civil and service weapons, its main parts, and cartridges for it (hereinafter referred to as weapons) was developed in accordance with the Agreement on licensing rules in the field of foreign trade in goods dated June 9, 2009 (hereinafter the Agreement) and the Agreement on the procedure for applying measures affecting foreign trade in goods in the common customs territory with respect to third countries from June 9, 2009.
2. This provision applies to legal entities and individuals registered as business entities engaged in the import, export and transit of weapons (hereinafter - the applicants) specified in section 2.22 of the Unified List of Goods to which bans or restrictions are applied by the customs participating States Union within the Eurasian Economic Community in trade with third countries, as well as for individuals importing, exporting and transit of such goods for personal use (for non-commercial purposes).
3. The import or export of weapons is carried out on the basis of licenses issued by the authorized state body of the Member States of the customs union (hereinafter referred to as the authorized body) in whose territory the applicant is registered, and also if there is a conclusion (permit) for the import or export of weapons issued by the authority , which exercises control in the sphere of arms trafficking, in accordance with the legislation of the state party to the customs union.
4. For registration of a license, the documents provided for in paragraph 3 of Article 3 of the Agreement shall be submitted to the authorized body.
5. In accordance with the national legislation of the state party to the customs union, the applicant additionally submits:
certificate of conformity or a document confirming the certification of weapons after importation in the established manner;
a document on the admissibility of exposure to the human body of the damaging factors of weapons issued by an authorized body in the field of health.
6. If, in accordance with the legislation of the state party to the customs union, the decision to issue a license is taken by the authorized body in agreement with another executive body of the state party to the customs union, the applicant shall submit the documents referred to in paragraph 5 of this Regulation, as well as the documents stipulated by paragraph 3 of Article 3 of the Agreement, to the executive authority of the state party to the Customs Union, which coordinates the issuance of a license.
7. The term for consideration of documents submitted to the coordinating authority is determined by the state - member of the customs union.
8. Documents submitted by the applicant must be certified in the manner prescribed by paragraph 8 of paragraph 3 of Article 3 of the Agreement.
9. In the event that an application for a license is issued for the import or export of several types, types and models of weapons corresponding to one 10-digit classification code according to ETH FEA, an application is issued for the application for a license.
10. Import and export of firearms, throwing and pneumatic weapons manufactured before 1899 (with the exception of firearms made for firing unitary cartridges of the central battle), as well as other edged weapons manufactured before the end of 1945 (hereinafter referred to as antique weapons), carried out in accordance with the requirements stipulated by the regulation on the import into the customs territory of the member states of the customs union and the export from the customs territory of the member states of the customs union of cultural property, documents of national archival funds and originals of archival documents.
11. The import and export of weapons of cultural value and not classified as antique weapons is carried out, inter alia, in accordance with the requirements stipulated by the regulation on the procedure for importing into the customs territory of the member states of the customs union and exporting from the customs territory of the member states of the customs Union of cultural property, documents of national archival funds and originals of archival documents.
12. Obtaining a license is not required provided that there is a conclusion (permit) issued by the state body of the state party to the customs union that exercises control in the sphere of arms circulation:
on the import into the territory of the customs union by individuals of weapons purchased in a third country for personal use, in accordance with the legislation of the state party to the customs union;
for temporary import and temporary export of weapons by individuals or sports organizations for participation in sports competitions, in accordance with the legislation of the Member State of the customs union;
for temporary import and temporary export of weapons by individuals to participate in the hunt, in accordance with the legislation of the Member State of the customs union;
on the export of weapons by individuals leaving for a permanent place of residence, and the import of weapons by individuals moving on a permanent place of residence, in accordance with the laws of the Member State of the customs union;
for temporary export of weapons by individuals or legal entities for participation in exhibitions held outside the territory of the customs union in accordance with the legislation of the state party to the customs union;
for temporary importation of weapons by individuals or legal entities for participation in exhibitions held on the territory of the customs union in accordance with the legislation of the state party to the customs union;
on the import and export of products structurally similar to weapons in accordance with Appendix N 1 to these regulations;
on the import and export of weapons of cultural value and not classified as antique weapons.
13. Weapons transit by individuals and legal entities is carried out without issuing licenses on the basis of conclusions (permits) issued by state bodies of the customs union member states that exercise control in the sphere of arms trafficking in accordance with the legislation of the customs union member states.
14. In addition to the grounds specified in paragraph 6 of Article 3 of the Agreement, the issuance of a license (approval of an application for the issuance of a license) may be refused if economic, political or military damage may be caused to a member state of the customs union.
15. The authorized body has the right to issue clarifications on issues of issuing licenses. Information on the conclusions issued is sent to the Commission of the customs union.

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[Guest]

Vitaly threw off the correct link. : D It’s silly to do MMG from a probably good thing. Let him make out a acquaintance with a collection license for himself (it’s easier for him and take less), then (renew) through his permission to your friend for the LOA license as a signal or gas (it all depends on the decision of the examination: what kind of trunk is recognized)!

 

[Роберт]

As a customs officer, I did not understand what my colleagues said here. I do not understand their terms: D and did not understand what they are trying to advise you.
I will not evaluate their "ideas", too profound phrases. : D
My advice to you, stupidly dial the customs number, on the sites there are phone numbers where you can get advice or write a letter to the territorial administration: D
And don’t listen to anyone here, they deactivate you for smuggling at once !!!!!! : D: D: D

 

[Елена Королёва]

That is, all the same, for a start, everything depends on customs? If customs gives the green light to import, then you have to run to the licensing permit or look for a collector who is familiar? Did I understand everything correctly?)

 

[Роберт]

That is, all the same, for a start, everything depends on customs? If customs gives the green light to import, then you have to run to the licensing permit or look for a collector who is familiar? Did I understand everything correctly?)

Call the customs, they will reasonably answer you that the undeclared import or export of this thing is a criminal case. And declare, without the appropriate documents, they will simply seize everything at the border. And why, let the customs themselves explain to you. I just do not understand why you are asking detectives about this? How do they know?

 

[Елена Королёва]

Because the topic is interesting) suddenly someone came across))

 

[Георгий Ахенко]

Robert plus you

 

[Guest]

Robert knows EVERYTHING, (forgot to indicate about customs) I’m sorry , the rest of the detectives are nothing, Robert’s erroneous opinion! : x From Finki.many things were purchased and brought to Russia from rifles, rifles, carbines. Elena or yourself or a familiar collector: acquires, customs, expertise, certifies, then permits and that’s it, you will be happy to have this product legally! : D Advice: there is an arms forum: Gans.ru: https://talks.guns.ru/forum , you will find ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED. Register and go to the section you need. Regards and good luck!