Competitive intelligence in the Premier League business

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

To understand what to go to the detective, if necessary.

Just call announce your problem, meet in detail without hiding anything, explain the essence of the problem and if the Detective is interested in your offer to work, he will not send you further and will probably take up the task.

I agree. But there is another side to the issue: one must go with one’s problem to the one who not only agrees to take money from you and work, but also to the one who obviously has experience in such work.
That's why I ask. so to speak. Do not go to the proctologist with a sore throat. Even if he considers it possible to treat a throat.

You can rest assured that the person who received the Detective License according to the same Law on BH has relevant experience, and if he is not sure of his capabilities, he simply will not undertake this work.

Not. I can not doubt. I always double-check information. But Detectives do not hatch from an incubator, they are the most ordinary people, so anyone can meet among them.
Yes, and it is logical, in fact.

I will give an example - from history. When Stalin had to have a hernia operation, he turned, in my opinion, to Academician Blokhin. Well, in general, to the luminary. The operation of hernia repair is, in principle, not complicated. But for six months this light began to do only hernias. Daily. Because when your hand is full, you are doing a good job.

I will give another example. From my practice. When I was asked to sketch out a plan to repel a specific raider attack, I did it in 15 minutes. In detail, and taking into account the specifics of the situation. Because I did not do this for the first time.

This is what we are talking about. Therefore, I am interested.

 

[Детектив-Юг]

And there are different works, for example, to find from a photograph of a man in a million city, last year I was interested in such a proposal and found it in two weeks.

Thank. But it is unlikely that such works constitute the basis of the detective? Rather, is this an exception to the rule? And then what is the "routine" that happens most often?

I already wrote about this earlier, the usual detective pose in the office.

Is it possible to say that the main thing that private detectives turn to is establishing the actual location of a person at a given time? Or is this the erroneous conclusion I made from the conversation here?

If you mean the determination of the location of the technical means of communication, then these are rather questions for scouts.
Detectives do not determine the location of subscribers, do not provide printouts of SMS, PTP, Billing, etc ...
In this case, customers go through the forest, and if they insist strongly, they can be redirected to where they will be provided with the desired service in full. And feed and provide housing.

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

I already wrote about this earlier, the usual detective pose in the office.

Is it possible to say that the main thing that private detectives turn to is establishing the actual location of a person at a given time? Or is this the erroneous conclusion I made from the conversation here?

If you mean the determination of the location of the technical means of communication, then these are rather questions for scouts.
Detectives do not determine the location of subscribers, do not provide printouts of SMS, PTP, Billing, etc ...
In this case, customers go through the forest, and if they insist strongly, they can be redirected to where they will be provided with the desired service in full. And feed and provide housing.

No, I didn’t talk about that.
I talked about the fact that the detective, apparently, is most often turned to understand - where is Vanya-Manya now, who owe money, live or work. Or where to find a son.

But overall, thanks, dear Detective South. As I understand it, you do not want to answer. It's your right. I will not "get you" a repetition of the same.

And dear Robert, thanks again for the clear and understandable answer.

 

[Детектив-Юг]

To understand what to go to the detective, if necessary.

Just call announce your problem, meet in detail without hiding anything, explain the essence of the problem and if the Detective is interested in your offer to work, he will not send you further and will probably take up the task.

I agree. But there is another side to the issue: one must go with one’s problem to the one who not only agrees to take money from you and work, but also to the one who obviously has experience in such work.
That's why I ask. so to speak. Do not go to the proctologist with a sore throat. Even if he considers it possible to treat a throat.

This is what we are talking about. Therefore, I am interested.

You do not understand a little bit, it is not the client who chooses the Detective, but the Detective chooses the client.
Not a single real-life detective, without understanding the essence of the problem, will tell the client right away - I take up the task.
The work of the Detective is not to provide abstract reasoning and predictions, but to provide real facts.
Detective of a muddy client asking a lot of questions like YOU. Dear, he will probably send him immediately by the forest, regardless of the proposed sky-high fees.

 

[Детектив-Юг]

Add:
The current Detective, by definition, cannot be a charlotte.
Take for example the data on Detective-YUG provided in all sources, on the site, here and everywhere, real office addresses, real statutory documents posted on the site for free access, real phones, real data in the Detectives registry on the website of the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs, etc. ...
You can find and chat, with half a turn in a matter of minutes.
The same is true for all current Detectives.
This is where the Current Detectives differ from other dubious structures, charlotans, and activities such as intelligence and spies near commerce.

With that I am leaving until the evening for a walk in the Zoo.

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

Sorry, dear Detective-South, but I do not live the first day in the world, including in Russia. And my work, I remind you, is no different from yours in this regard. Yes, in principle, and from the lawyer too.
Therefore, I believe that the following statements can personally characterize you and the circle of your acquaintances, but even theoretically they cannot apply to all detectives without exception.

You do not understand a little bit, it is not the client who chooses the Detective, but the Detective chooses the client.

It is not true. In a work of this kind, both sides choose each other. Moreover, a detective (like a specialist of the Kyrgyz Republic or a lawyer) can choose only from those who contacted him. Because the well-known rule in medicine, "the doctor does not go after the patient," applies to our types of work.

If the client has not arrived, you will not be able to select or refuse him. So, looking from the client (or partner), I must understand what to go with and what not.

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The current Detective, by definition, cannot be a charlotte ..

It is not true. The NPV law implies formal signs of obtaining a detective’s license, which many charlatans can correspond to.

Take for example the data on Detective-YUG provided in all sources, on the site, here and everywhere, real office addresses, real statutory documents posted on the site for free access, real phones, real data in the Detectives registry on the website of the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs, etc. ...
You can find and chat, with half a turn in a matter of minutes.
The same is true for all current Detectives.

I believe. But I do not have the slightest desire to highlight my interest to an indefinite circle of people, turning to the wrong thing and the wrong thing. because where and to whom my interest flows away is impossible to predict without knowing people. As a rule, the world is small and the story that certain people are interested in certain events is flowing quickly. With all the consequences of this reason.

In reality, as a rule, this is overcome by contacting those whom friends recommend, if there is no personal contact. But if there are no such contacts, you need to focus on other signs. The first one is to deal with what the detective does.

This is where the Current Detectives differ from other dubious structures, charlotans, and activities such as intelligence and spies near commerce.

You know, in any type of business there are charlatans (this word is written through "a", but this is just a remark). And there are morons and scammers. Not to mention the paranoid people who see the ambush on every corner.
And there are professionals. For example, even in such an unlicensed form of activity as conducting sociological surveys, there are recognized masters, and there are unskillful people. Accordingly, there are mechanisms to distinguish the former from the latter.
Having a detective license is a plus compared to the "general population." But there is no guarantee of decency or professionalism. Moreover, professionalism is not only knowledge, but also experience, and what this experience is in is not always clear.

Detective of a muddy client asking a lot of questions like YOU. Dear, he will probably send him immediately by the forest, regardless of the proposed sky-high fees.

Excuse me, this is a question of what the average detectives are doing, muddy? Not you personally, but detectives in general?
PPC, dear edition ...

However, I have already said that I do not insist. Do not want (or can not) explain - well, and do not. In principle, they already told me what I asked.

 

[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

Ruslan is the last Chinese warning.

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

I asked a question on the air, outside this forum:

Question to those who are familiar with the activities of a private detective.

Please tell us what kind of work, as a rule, are ordered to private detectives in practice?

I’m just curious to understand what it makes sense to contact them in general, in view of the fact that they have real experience in such matters.

If one of the lawyers can tell whether there is a need for a lawyer to turn to the services of a private detective, and why is also interesting.

I’ll tell you about the results.

 

[JR Security Consulting Group]

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The current Detective, by definition, cannot be a charlotte.
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Vitya! I know of two acting detectives personally, freaks who are not responsible for the bazaar. By the way, I posted this info on the forum. So I do not agree with you on this. Obtaining a license costs nothing but money, absolutely! But authority has been gained over the years.

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

[But authority has been gained over the years.

This is undeniable.
If in the refined, carefully sifted KGB there were scoundrels, thieves and traitors - what can we say about a much less carefully filtered environment from which detectives come out.
Any pastoral on the topic of ideal people is perceived as sticky. Because it is.