Presentations by Andrei Masalovich on competitive intelligence

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

Just a couple of additions to the argument on the issue of constant discontent of Mr. Astra. Here, look: the verbose and intrusive exposition of Mr. Astra's dissatisfaction with the Sub-Forum on Competitive Intelligence comes down mainly to a few simple thoughts:

1. Once again, I looked at what all sorts of Yushchuk, Masalovich, Lemke, etc. are telling us here. and again didn’t understand anything.

2. Those who write "Thank you" also do not understand anything, but pretend that they understand

3. I asked me to show specifically the work - they refuse

4. If I don’t understand anything, it means they are talking nonsense.

Under item 3, I wrote above. For the rest, I think the following.

Under paragraph 1, it is not clear to me why Mr. Astra goes to subforums, on which he does not understand anything. After a third or fourth time, it seems to me that an adequate person will either go and master something that is not clear to him, or decide that he is not only incomprehensible, but also uninteresting and will stop going to such a resource.

According to paragraph 2, at least, Messrs. Matushkin and Bederev - understand what is at stake. Because they independently and competently made reports on this issue, in part - using the materials available here (and available on the Web outside this Forum).

According to claim 4. If someone does not understand something, it really does not exclude the option: "The material and / or its presentation is unsuitable." But it does not exclude the option: "This citizen is not able to understand this."

What we have in this case is not difficult to verify.
- The version "Material unsuitable" is refuted by the fact that this material is in demand in practice both in state and in private structures. This has a variety of evidence - including documentary.
- The version "The presentation is worthless - therefore I did not understand anything" is refuted by the fact that the presentation of the material is rated as useful and understandable by both state and private structures. There are also documents on this subject.
But Mr. Astra insists that he still does not understand the usefulness of the material. I tend to believe him. But, in this case, what option, besides Mr. Astra’s inability, can this be understood?

I intentionally do not touch now the nonsense of the type of "professor veterinarian" that Astra scribbled here, but I speak exclusively on the topic of the sub-forum. Any objections to what I have said? Well, not the abstract "believe me, there are people smarter than you," but specifically according to what I have just said?

 

[Generalpi]

I did not intervene for a long time - I can no longer. Mr. Yushchuk simply puts my American mind in a stupor. I’m kind of a person not stupid and have two higher educations, and even so, the thoughts of this gentleman sometimes throw me in a cold sweat. Andrei Nikolaevich, as the leader of our forum, please ask that the above mentioned gentleman be a little more tolerant and not offend other participants. he probably himself does not understand that such statements, even in a very clever language, are an insult. Since you, Mr. Yushchuk, are an honorary member of our Society, act accordingly .. Mr. Yushchuk, Govern yourself accordingly, thank you very much.

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

he probably himself does not understand that such statements, even in a very clever language, are an insult.

Dear STEVE, if Monsieur Astra allows himself the statements that are written above - I will allow myself to evaluate it accordingly. Moreover, pay attention to one interesting fact: I argue my statements. And Mr. Astra is practically nonexistent.
If, in your opinion, the truth about Mr. Astra, which I expressed correctly and reasonably, and is not an insult, is perceived by you as insulting, I can say two things:

1. Perhaps Mr. Astra is somehow not quite right if a simple analysis of his actions is perceived negatively.

2. If, as I have already said, Mr. Astra also considers himself offended - let him write a statement of claim. I will certainly meet with him in court and explain all his errors. Once and officially.

But to say "I did not understand - it means it is rubbish" and "professor veterinarian" and at the same time do not receive objections - like this, excuse me, it does not happen. And will not be. Do you want the correct treatment? I also want to. So start by putting in order the thoughts and words of Mr. Astra.

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

And yet, Mr. STEVE, I draw your attention: You have said a lot about "correctness" and some "insults" and not a word - essentially what I said. Do you agree with what I said in terms of meaning, but disagree in form, or how to understand it?

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

Since you, Mr. Yushchuk, are an honorary member of our Society, behave accordingly.

Please explain to me:

1. Does honorary membership in this respected society impose on me the obligation to silently endure the attacks of people who, in my opinion, are not able to understand the materials that are posted here, but for some reason I do not blame it, but those who materials provided them for free and without any obligation?

2. Does my honorable membership in this respected society deprive me of the right to offer a person a civilized solution to controversial issues - in court?

If so, I ask you to suspend my honorary membership until the court makes a decision on the claim of Mr. Astra. I am not ready for the sake of this membership, the receipt of which was not my initiative, to give up my civil rights and listen to no one's stupidity from anyone, not having the right to express my thoughts on this subject.

 

[Бюро Рысь]

Dear Lynx Bureau, should you go somewhere with your advice? Where do you climb now and why?

I just applaud you!
The smart wise men have already sent full members, and they even run into me, which is supposed to be going somewhere in my house. Cool. It surprises me, another why the rest are silent?
Here it’s not even the matter of Astra, he has his own position and his ambition, this is a separate conversation, which, incidentally, was between him and Andrei Matushkin.
There is already the question "where do you climb and why" dear Yushchuk refers to you!
And the question is - the first time I see the title of honorary member of our community, it’s for such merits and something I have not seen an order to confer such a title!

 

[Татьяна 49]

Evgeny Leonidovich, you do not behave correctly in relation to members of the forum. Nobody belittles your specific knowledge. Regarding Astra, having read all his posts and escapades, I have never met him mentioning your name with any label .. Veterinarian , he could say about me, in fact, about anyone who loves pets and knows how to treat them. Absolutely incomprehensible attacks on him. An insulting tone towards Ruslan ?????? You guys didn’t insult you to primitize them. Do you want to win 5000 rubles again in court? Like Volkov’s, only now is Astra, so you want to drag him to court .... It’s not like a man.

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

Dear Tatyana, unfortunately, Astra is systematically engaged in what I wrote in my post. I will not repeat it - everything has already been written here: index.php? threads / 11681 # p134112
And whom he calls - I read much more than you - believe me. I killed a lot of time to talk with this cheeky and extremely stubborn gentleman, and I know what I'm talking about.

I have the right to express my opinion in a non-derogatory manner. And I intend to use this right, because it is legal. The insult or non-insincerity of my tone will be determined, in the case of a court, by an expert in linguistic research. But not before Mr. Astra filed a lawsuit. And if he doesn’t serve it, then there is no problem.

Let him decide whether they insulted him, in his opinion or not (I insist that I didn’t plan to insult him, nor insulted him, and my text with an estimate of Astra confirms this)

If there are objections to the specific arguments I have given, I am ready to discuss it. I don’t see them yet.

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

I just applaud you!

Let's leave emotions aside and talk about the facts.

The smart wise men have already sent full members, and they even run into me, which is supposed to be going somewhere in my house. Cool. It surprises me, another why the rest are silent?

Where exactly did the wise men send you?
Why do you think it is possible to declare to me that I am climbing into the conversation between Matushkin and Astra - and this is wrong, but at the same time you think it is right to climb into my conversation with Astra?

Here it’s not even the matter of Astra, he has his own position and his ambition, this is a separate conversation, which, incidentally, was between him and Andrei Matushkin.

I don’t care how Astra talked with anyone behind the scenes. I see the text of Astra and answered it. He answered reasonably.

There is already the question "where do you climb and why" dear Yushchuk refers to you!

I answered you above. I will not repeat myself. Read.

And the question is - the first time I see the title of honorary member of our community, it’s for such merits and something I have not seen an order to confer such a title!

This is not a question for me. Understand yourself.

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

I want to note again that while the participants in the conversation relate exclusively to the emotional part of the question and do not say anything essentially.
I confirm that I consider substantiated and true my assessment of Mr. Astra, which I expressed here index.php? threads / 11681 # p134112 and here: com / viewtopic.php? amp; f = 347 & t = 11681 & p = 134139 # p134120

If she does not like Mr. Astra, I am waiting for his statement of claim and is ready to answer in court. But I warn you: I will also have counter-questions to Mr. Astra.

If Mr. Astra has no desire to go to court, I suggest that other respected forum participants take this fact into account. Now the Forum has two points of view - unfounded, emotional and sometimes just strange Asters about me and my colleagues, and mine - at least, reasoned - about why Astra, in my opinion, behaves this way. I don’t see a problem.