Sobre as peculiaridades dos serviços de detetive de preços

[Группа К]

Re: About the features of pricing detective services

"Flashing", this is thrown by the client)

One time, another throw - this is the end of a career. Nowadays, to restore a reputation is the same as re-birth ... If there are such individual entrepreneurs who "dash" for the sake of one or two orders, then this is either fools or they consider a detective story as not basic, but extra income. In general, the same risk is obtained, only in criminal form. Conscientiousness cannot be discussed here at all.

But in contrast to a detective with a license, a civilian who “flogs up” as a detective, carries not criminal, but administrative responsibility. Is this not the reason that false detectives have a numerical advantage over private investigators? In my opinion, it is so ... unfortunately, of course ...

 

[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

"Flashing", this is thrown by the client)

One time, another throw - this is the end of a career. Nowadays, to restore a reputation is the same as re-birth ... If there are such individual entrepreneurs who "dash" for the sake of one or two orders, then this is either fools or they consider a detective story as not basic, but extra income. In general, the same risk is obtained, only ten times. Conscientiousness cannot be discussed here at all.

I don’t know whether I’ll cheer you up or upset you, one of them claims that his site has been working for more than 10 years. And nothing, the earth (the Internet) wears))
The second is a little less ...

As for the reputation, I strongly agree with you.

 

[Группа К]

"Flashing", this is thrown by the client)

One time, another throw - this is the end of a career. Nowadays, to restore a reputation is the same as re-birth ... If there are such individual entrepreneurs who "dash" for the sake of one or two orders, then this is either fools or they consider a detective story as not basic, but extra income. In general, the same risk is obtained, only ten times. Conscientiousness cannot be discussed here at all.

I don’t know whether I’ll cheer you up or upset you, one of them claims that his site has been working for more than 10 years. And nothing, the earth (the Internet) wears))
The second is a little less ...

As for the reputation, I strongly agree with you.

Our client, Andrei, is far from stupid, and has long since learned to use the Whois and Waybackmachine services. If the client could not establish the actual validity period of the site, then of course the fact that he was thrown and his fault too. But we left the line of argument. I wanted to say that anyone can be conscientious - IP with or without a license. But the risk of non-fulfillment of obligations lies with a detective with a license much greater than with a security manager working in a near-detective company.

 

[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

I wanted to say that anyone can be conscientious - IP with or without a license. But the risk of non-fulfillment of obligations lies with a detective with a license much greater than with a security manager working in a near-detective company.

There is no arguing)).

 

[Ivan Glinkin]

Guys, good evening!
Here somewhere the topic was about samples of model contracts - can not you recall?
thank

 

[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

Now let's look))

 

[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

ru/viewforum.php?f=244

 

[Ivan Glinkin]

https://forum.detective-agency.info/ru/viewforum.php?f=244

Oooh, Andrey, thanks, what you need =)

 

[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

And to speak on the topic ???!

 

[Ivan Glinkin]

And to speak on the topic ???!

If, of course, it will be interesting to someone, I’m ready: D
1. To begin with, in most countries, representatives of which are forum users, a market economy. What does this mean? This means that the entrepreneur (individual entrepreneur, state of emergency, organization, state and other subjects of relations) has the right to set any price. The exception is a certain group of goods / services enshrined in law. Fortunately for representatives of Russia, there are no restrictions on pricing in NPVs.
2. As the same market economy dictates to us, it is not profitable to sell goods at a price lower than cost. What is included in the cost: fixed and variable costs. The permanent ones include the detective’s salary, corresponding payments to the Federal Tax Service, PS and the Social Insurance Fund, monthly (quarterly / annual) updating of information resources and other costs that do not depend on the number of goods and services sold. Variable costs: the payment of specialists involved, the purchase of certain information, as well as other costs that depend on the particular case.
3. Margin profit - this is exactly the part of the iceberg that is discussed in this topic The question is just how to determine it: not to cheapen, but not to set too high so that the client does not leave.

Therefore, in order to determine the optimal cost of the services provided, it is necessary to calculate the cost, to the nearest penny, analyze it with the market and determine the marginal profit.
Example: the cost of updating your information resources per month is 17434.2 rubles. The salary you want is 100,000 rubles per month. Rent: + 15,000 rubles. Internet, telephone, paper, travel and other small expenses: 7,000 rubles. Total 139,434.2 rubles.
And now we consider what and with what frequency of service you provide monthly (adjusted for seasonality and other force majeure circumstances) and from there we calculate the cost of one order.
For example, you have an agreement with a recruitment agency to check personnel for reliability. Pay per head. An average of 30-40 people pass per month.
And 5 orders to collect the dossier. Given the time of work, it can be assumed that collecting dossiers per person = checking 3 employees in a recruitment agency. Simple arithmetic: 3 058.54 rubles per person of a recruitment agency and 9 thousand with a penny per file.
Market value check on the bases (not advertising - purely for example - https://www.detektive.ru/uslugi.htm . A rough example, it is necessary to evaluate by a larger number of prices): from 7 to 10, and the full dossier (including wholesale) - probably there will be about 30, then the difference is obvious.
Already knowing the minimum below which you cannot fall in price, you can negotiate with the client specifically, and not abstractly, from the ceiling. We also need to develop a discount matrix taking into account wholesale, quality, quantity and more ... this is an economic theory, who are interested, you can find it on the Internet and this is a completely different story =)

Regards, Ivan

P.S. I ask you to excuse me in advance, I have 0:33 time, my head is already foggy, so I could make typos, inaccuracies and mistakes somewhere =)
Good night =)