Installation To punch a man.

[Андрей Захаров]

- Hello! Can you punch a person?
- Not! We are not involved in physical abuse!
Maybe the comrades of detectives also have a technique, how to guess what the customer needs exactly without the help of a psychic and without asking a bunch of questions?
And then constantly with a mysterious look they ask to "punch", but always this very "punch" implies the receipt of completely different information.
The list, of course, is good, but based on practice, the full range of information is usually not required. Depending on the situation, 2-3 or even one point is enough.

This list is only for the possibility of drawing up a plan of possible measures, which, when implemented, will help in establishing certain facts necessary for a potential customer ... And this list can be either more ... or less .....

 

[Александр Дицель]

The concept of “Installation” is, in principle, not contained in the above-mentioned Law on the ARD ... and this is true .... But there is its concept in the specialized literature published on the interpretation of the norms of this Law .... And in principle, Installation is not only work at the address, and a set of measures that include various methods of obtaining information aimed at establishing a certain fact .... For example, the same fact of living at a certain address, establishing a specific "connection" of an object with a certain circle of people, etc. .. I see no other reason to argue ... I myself have worked in this system for more than one year ... and not even ten)))) Well, okay .... thank you for your opinion ....

I have no doubt that you have vast experience in investigative work, but it differs significantly from operational. I also have a wealth of experience with just operational work, and not 10 or 15 years. So, the concept of OS is only in the relevant order that governs the work of search units. And there, the address object is specifically indicated.

 

[Андрей Захаров]

I have no doubt that you have vast experience in investigative work, but it differs significantly from operational. I also have a wealth of experience with just operational work, and not 10 or 15 years. So, the concept of OS is only in the relevant order that governs the work of search units. And there, the address object is specifically indicated.

There is such a thing ... But I want to draw attention to the fact that the topic of discussion on this issue is not an interpretation of the terms, but a plan for certain events. In addition, I want to note that the concepts of "Installation" ... Not the "Quick Installation", which the author of the post speaks of, namely the "Installation", is not only in the Law on the Horde, to which the BH, in principle, have no relation, but I’ll tell you a secret ... There is no such thing in the Law on BHC OD, which regulates BH activities, which is described in the article ... In addition, one should take into account the fact that, of course, practice is good ... But before you become a practitioner - a specialist in his field, it is necessary to study, study and study ... As V.I. said Lenin)))) .... Interpretation and the concept of DU (OPERATIONAL INSTALLATION) are given by scientists, whose books are used to study persons who later work in the law enforcement system, apply the acquired knowledge in various special services and practice .... and also relevant departmental orders are being prepared and drawn up ... The operas, in principle, should and must know all this ... But scientists give the following interpretation of the OS itself ....




Operational installation tactics - as a type of operational-search measures






The operational installation as one of the types of operational-search measures is the purposeful, systematic visual or indirect (using operational-technical means) perception and fixation of phenomena, events, facts that are important for solving the tasks of the operational-search activity, carried out in the course of the operational-search activity, processes.


Operational installation is a form of implementation of the totality (complex) of operational-search measures dictated by specific circumstances and the methods of the war, carried out both publicly and privately by the operatives in order to identify, prevent, suppress and solve crimes, search for hiding criminals and solve other tasks of the ARD Theory promptly -search activity: Textbook / Ed. K.K. Goryainova, V.S. Ovchinsky, G.K. Sinilova. M .: INFRA-M, 2006.S. 409 ..


In the specialized literature, especially by Russian authors, the operational installation is considered in the same way as the ARD method. At the same time, the individual elements are united by a single term “method”, which is understood as the way to achieve a goal, solve a specific problem, and the totality of techniques or operations.













As a starting point for determining the essence of a personal investigation, its conceptual education can be used. The word "operational" can be regarded as a synonym for the words "hidden", "unspoken"; it refers to the subject of the action or actions related to the content of the second conceptual education - “installation”, which can rightfully be considered as “identification”, “search”, “search”. Thus, the operational installation can be characterized as the detection, identification, search, search, carried out personally or individually by the subject of these actions.


This term has gained distribution and a very definite meaning. He designated special non-procedural measures to identify and detect unknown or hiding criminals, i.e. the significance of the establishment began to be identified with the actions of authorized persons, and these non-procedural, free-nature actions, however, had a strictly defined focus on solving the crime and detaining the offender. In this aspect, it is advisable to consider the current value of the operational installation of the theory of operational-search activity: Textbook / Ed. K.K. Goryainova, V.S. Ovchinsky, G.K. Sinilova. M .: INFRA-M, 2006.S. 409 ..


But I want to note once again that the article under discussion has nothing to do with OU, the interpretation of which the author is trying to give the post does not have, because BHs do not belong to the subjects of the ARD and cannot conduct such events .... And, of course, they cannot be guided by any departmental orders))) The interpretation “Installation” was given by the author of the article in the subject under discussion on the basis of the BH version of the interpretation adapted to the activity Shelter used by the subjects of the Horde ... And all .... If the author of the post has a desire to speculate on this topic, I recommend to my respected Alexander to create a separate topic for discussion))) So as not to “clog” with reasoning exactly our topic the topic of BH activities .... Something like this .... Regards to the opponent)))

 

[Детектив-Молдова]

Andrei Valerievich, it is EXCELLENT described, however, as colleagues noticed, all actions fall under the prohibitions established by the Law on NPV (in this case, Articles 19 and 20 of the Law on NPV R. Moldova):
- an oral survey of individuals, including officials, is carried out only with their consent,
- making inquiries, studying objects and documents, only with the written consent of their owners,
- IT IS POSSIBLE to conduct an external inspection of buildings, premises and other objects without verbal and written consent, in order to obtain information necessary to fulfill the instructions provided for in the contract. HOWEVER, if the owner finds out about this, then under the pretext of an attempt on private, family life, health, honor and dignity, he can sue a good amount !!!
- it is impossible to carry out actions related to special search activities,
- it is impossible to collect information related to private or family life, without the special written consent of those,
- it is impossible to carry out actions encroaching on the private life, health, honor, dignity and property of individuals, including officials.

And what are we coming to ?! In addition, the fact that the installation is a complete violation ...
The purposeful collection of information from the Internet to a specific person is the same violation that infringes on the private life, health, honor, dignity and property of individuals (including officials). If you follow the requirements of the law, then it is practically possible to sue for any action by a private detective.

I see this situation.

PS Yes, data handling (collection, fixing, storage ...) " Name, date and place of birth, place of registration, place of actual residence, TIN, possibly SNILS "a specific person, without his permission, this is a violation of the Law on personal data! With us, this is so.
By the way, in the Consulting Services Agreement, I included a clause according to which the Customer agrees to the processing of personal data.

 

[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

. Yes, data handling (collection, fixing, storage ...) " Name, date and place of birth, place of registration, place of actual residence, TIN, possibly SNILS "a specific person, without his permission, this is a violation of the Law on personal data! With us, this is so.
By the way, in the Consulting Services Agreement, I included a clause according to which the Customer agrees to the processing of personal data.

I express my deep gratitude to each participant in the discussion.
I will try to "please" everyone personally.
You are doing a huge and very necessary job in promoting the Association and the Forum.

 

[Андрей Захаров]

Andrei Valerievich, it is EXCELLENT described, however, as colleagues noticed, all actions fall under the prohibitions established by the Law on NPV (in this case, Articles 19 and 20 of the Law on NPV R. Moldova):
- an oral survey of individuals, including officials, is carried out only with their consent,
- making inquiries, studying objects and documents, only with the written consent of their owners,
- IT IS POSSIBLE to conduct an external inspection of buildings, premises and other objects without verbal and written consent, in order to obtain information necessary to fulfill the instructions provided for in the contract. HOWEVER, if the owner finds out about this, then under the pretext of an attempt on private, family life, health, honor and dignity, he can sue a good amount !!!
- it is impossible to carry out actions related to special search activities,
- it is impossible to collect information related to private or family life, without the special written consent of those,
- it is impossible to carry out actions encroaching on the private life, health, honor, dignity and property of individuals, including officials.

And what are we coming to ?! In addition, the fact that the installation is a complete violation ...
The purposeful collection of information from the Internet to a specific person is the same violation that infringes on the private life, health, honor, dignity and property of individuals (including officials). If you follow the requirements of the law, then it is practically possible to sue for any action by a private detective.

I see this situation.

PS Yes, data handling (collection, fixing, storage ...) " Name, date and place of birth, place of registration, place of actual residence, TIN, possibly SNILS "a specific person, without his permission, this is a violation of the Law on personal data! With us, this is so.
By the way, in the Consulting Services Agreement, I included a clause according to which the Customer agrees to the processing of personal data.

Nikolay Vasilievich! In principle, one cannot disagree about possible violations ... although one can argue on some points))) But this article is not a call for violations of something .... And the hypothetical plan of possible measures ... and that’s it. ..)))) ... that would indicate the possible necessary amount of information ... And however much we all called these "events" ... the essence is always one-gathering information ... which must be carried out without violating the Law. ..))))

 

[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

Я немного поспорю с автором.
Во-первых в ФЗ "Об ОРД" не существует такого понятия, как "Установка", больше подходит наверное ОРМ " Наведение справок", я сужу из описанного в статье.
Во-вторых "Установка" а точнее ОУ-это один из 6 методов ОРД , что само по себе является гос. тайной и проводится только на адрес, т. е. коротко говоря объектом ОУ является адрес, а не как не лицо!
В связи с чем, мне, как человеку сведующиму в данной отрасли права, не совсем понятна данная статья, тем более её оглавление. Наверное было бы корректнее назвать " Сбор информации о лице "объекте" источники и способы её получения. "

С днём рождения!