Freedom and justice. Search for missing people

[Детективное агентство. Украина. Харьков. Львов.]

This program was shot in November 2011. She did not go on the air right away, as the presenter of the program, Andrei Makarov, ran for the deputies of the State Duma of the Russian Federation of the VI convocation. Where by the way and safely passed, taking the post of chairman of the Committee on Budget and Taxes.
And on December 22, 2011, in the program “Freedom and Justice” on ORT, a story was shown about the search for missing people.
The topic was mainly devoted to the work of law enforcement agencies when citizens contacted them, with allegations of missing loved ones and relatives.
July 22, 16-year-old Masha Surganova, saying goodbye to her brother, went to the side of the house and disappeared. All day, relatives searched for the girl themselves, and ran to the police in the evening. However, they managed to file a complaint with the police only on the third day after Masha’s disappearance, and the real searches began only three months later. All this time, Masha’s mother lives with one hope: her daughter will be found alive.

MAXIM KUGRYSHEV, brother of the missing Masha Surganova, July 22, 2011: We parted with Masha in an electric train. It was in the morning, when everyone went to the country, most likely, it was Friday. I think that after all, something happened in the train, and she did not reach the destination station. We trusted each other, and Masha could not leave without telling anyone. My mother was in a serious condition in the hospital. After she arrived home from the hospital, we informed her. And before that I was looking for it myself. First of all, I went to our Belozersky police station. He asked with whom I can talk, who can listen to me about the missing person. They said to me: “What do we have to do with it? Where did you last see her? In the train on Udelnaya? Welcome to the transport police, file an application there. ” I went to the transport police at Udelnaya, but there they sent me to the Lyubertsy station, also to the Linear Police Station. Moreover, they explained that the application would be accepted only on the third day after the disappearance. In Lyubertsy, the application was accepted, the search never began. The only thing that they call me only for repeated interrogations, that's all. Then we begin to file an application with the prosecutor. It turned out that they sent this case to the Savelovsky department - for some reason by mail. But when we turned to the Savelovsky police department, we were told that the materials had not arrived.

ALEXANDER HINSTEIN, deputy of the State Duma of the Russian Federation: Formally, the duty officer of the unit to which they applied acted correctly: he sent them to the transport police unit, since the last time the girl was seen on the train. But I can guess in advance what happened next. No one today is seriously involved in the search for missing persons in the country. This is a very specific, very hard work. But if we talk about the formal side, then I have no doubt that any verification conducted will establish that there is no violation of job descriptions in the actions of employees. Although in general everything that we hear now, this whole story from beginning to end is one continuous violation of all regulatory orders and current legislation. Because, of course, not the victims should run from department to department.

ALEXANDER CHEKALIN, Colonel General of the Ministry of Internal Affairs: In the place of that duty officer, I would not have shown such callousness, a reference to the transport police. Most likely, I would ask the operatives of the one and the second to go down, talk with people, accept the statement, transmit it through my channels and show active participation. But the problem is global! 120 thousand Russians a year are wanted by law enforcement agencies. But the search is 98 percent. To beat on the right and on the left cheek of the police ... I believe that such figures are still premature. You can talk about these sad statistics for a long time, be indignant. We are watched by millions of viewers. Let's push this topic through the proposal. Today is a very complex system of entry of the wanted list. 10 days for application, up to 3 months - local search, up to 15 years - federal search. A criminal case is opened only in each search case. I make a proposal: to institute criminal proceedings on each fact of the loss of a child. Not every citizen, and a child - without fail. In this case, a completely different set of actions, in this case you will not see such lazy guys. But today we have gathered one side, of course, with a tragic content. I bow low, I apologize, because I worked for 40 years in the system of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. But, my dears, we did not invite a single person here today, and this is 50 - 52 thousand found by the internal affairs bodies in a year. And children as well. You understand, we are unilaterally again fucking the former police. Let's do a little timeout, six months. Let's not criticize, and then we will remove three skins.

OLGA KOSTINA, member of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation: The object of the police service is the applicant, this is you. Not how many they caught, not how much they revealed, but how many people they helped during the reception of applications. I want to say a very important thing. Unfortunately, we go our own way on our children, on our mistakes, which have been passed by many countries, including the United States of America, where also the protest movement actually started from below, where only people themselves were looking for these children, the police shrugged. You know that under today's law, for example, in the United States, if the parent has not stated that the child has left, within 24 hours, the parent receives a criminal case.

VLADIMIR OVCHINSKY, criminologist, retired Major General of the Ministry of Internal Affairs: I wanted to say that everything was violated because the person went where they should already accept the application, and they should turn on the mechanisms, they should notify and forward them. They have already committed a misconduct, they have violated the instructions. How much time should elapse since a person has disappeared, who should respond, where should they be declared?

DMITRY Vtorov, head of the project “Search for Children”: We are engaged in a search in a volunteer organization. Recently, 140 cases have passed throughout Russia throughout Russia. Of these 140 cases, 30 children died. Where 98 percent come from, I personally do not understand. We are faced with an interesting fact that indeed we have such cases when police officers are very active in helping. And it all depends, as we came to the conclusion, solely on the employee to whom we fall. If an official is sitting there in uniform, who does not care what happens to the child, the adult, he does not do a damn thing. But if this is a person who experiences with his soul and heart, then the movement begins.

IRINA VOROBYEVA, journalist, volunteer: Listen, they understand this problem at the leadership level. But at the level “over there, lower”, where these people come, they don’t understand it at all. It happens, and with us, too, chiefs of the criminal police are looking for children in the forest, because there are no people. We say that it all depends on the person who sits there. The country simply does not have the concept of "emergency - a child is missing." We neither the Ministry of Emergencies have such a situation, neither the Ministry of Internal Affairs nor the authorities. Half an hour, those same 30 minutes that exist in the United States of America, half an hour! We have neither amendments to the law “On Mass Media”, nor amendments to the law “On Communications” if you are talking about proposals. There is nothing. This is generally nothing for our country. But the police have opportunities, they just do not. Of course, they transmit orientations from one ATS to another ATS if the child is missing. But we are faced with the fact that ATS are across the road from each other: one ATS is one area, the other ATS is another area. The child disappeared here, the statement lies here, and here, across the road, there is no orientation. And we volunteers go and the police just give these orientations in the mouth.
GRIGORY SERGEEV, coordinator of the search and rescue squad “Lisa Alert”: The first day is the most important time. If you immediately break through the phone with which she was lost, you can understand where to start looking. This has not been done so far; three months have passed. Starting from the point where it disappeared, where the phone was last recorded, you can see all the territories, you can comb through forests, see industrial zones. From that place you need to start interviewing people, you need to deal with sticking out orientations. It is necessary to produce a lot of large-scale activities. And this time is the first day, second day, third day. You can’t wait a second at all.

OLGA KOSTINA, member of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation: I understand that talking about laws is now irrelevant. But the story of the girl who left for the Sea of Azov, the story of the criminal abduction of children, and both, is in any case the result of family distress. How does the child end up on the street? Or family troubles ... Something didn’t work, a turning point, some protests. All the same, this is a negative, and the state should be involved in this, including, it is his duty to protect children in any case.
ALEXANDER HINSTEIN, deputy of the State Duma of the Russian Federation: So that our program does not come down to one thing - to scold the police, some kind of specifics must be made. So, what seems to me to be necessary? First - today, the search does not begin with the first minute, not with the first hour when the application arrives. In all the stories that we heard today, the key words were words that no one began to engage in hot pursuit. We understand that in 50 percent of cases it is the hot spots that give the result.
Oleg Pytov, private investigator, former employee of the Criminal Investigation Department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation: I am a private investigator, I have been working for almost 15 years. Most of the time I devote to finding missing people. On behalf of private detectives, I would like to thank Alexander Hinshtein for the recent amendments that you make to our law. The police work as they can. There are not enough people, not enough funds. Volunteers - yes, they work well, there are no bureaucratic obstacles, there is no such mechanism in which you fly the flywheel while pushing it, while it goes. So are we, private detectives: a person came to us directly, we do not write anything, we do not report to anyone, only to clients.

I want to say right away that I did not like the program. All 50 minutes, I silently watched as invited guests poured water from empty to empty about how disgustingly our police work, how they hide crimes and do not accept statements about missing people. The relatives of Masha who arrived at the program listened to all these arguments with bated breath, and suddenly they would say something sensible. Alas, they discussed everything, normative acts, instructions and orders of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the work of volunteers and volunteers from social networks. Everything, except how to help the relatives of the missing Masha Surganova.
At the end of the program, I was able to convey words of gratitude to our deputies about the development of a private investigation in Russia, and I signed up for free to help find the missing girl.
Leaving my coordinates to Masha’s brother, Maxim, a few days later I received initial information about how this all happened, and under what circumstances the girl disappeared from sight of her relatives. By that time, it was already known that Masha was alive and well, and even through the Internet she connects and communicates with her brother. The task was to find her and get information about the location of Surganova. I already began to figure out a plan of measures, checking the coordinates and IP addresses of the girl’s access to the Network, as Maxim told me that Masha agreed to meet with him and return to her relatives. My help was not needed.
From a conversation with my brother, I found out that the girl just howled before the intended station, and went with a group of young people to visit, where she stayed to live. She was prompted to this step by a simple desire for an independent life in Moscow. She did not look her 16 years old, but much older, because she was sure that she would succeed. Alas.
This story ended happily, and I think mom and family can now sleep peacefully.
And here is the main question: so much labor, searching, nerves, disputes in the end. And for what?
Of course it is terrible when a loved one disappears and relatives do not find a place for themselves. But what to do in such cases? Simple pranks and unreasonable actions of children and adolescents make not only suffer, but also spend time, money, resources on the search for missing persons. This should also be remembered. Remember both parents and those who are looking for missing people.



Source https://www.1tv.ru
Oleg Pytov -
chief editor of the site,
private detective

 

[Евгений СБ]

Thank. Interesting.

 

[Частный детектив. Панда. Краснодар.]

Interesting stuff, thanks.

 

[Детективное агентство Тула]

Thank.

 

[@InfoPoisk]

The problem of finding people is, in fact, painstaking work. It should start immediately, often the police (police) say that a search application is filed after 3 days. It is not true. They also say that only a relative can apply. This is also nonsense, any citizen can apply for any citizen. Just often laziness, callousness and ignorance arise. Wanted time is important, every minute is valuable. Always punished his subordinates for such nonsense.
He drove into their heads - and if you burn in the place of the applicants, what will you do?

 

[Частный детектив Оренбург]

I agree with the opinion of colleagues. Interesting article. What to do with negligent policemen - I don’t know?

 

[Частный детектив Севастополь ОДБ]

Thanks, very useful article.

 

[Детективное агентство. Москва. Арбат.]

Thanks, interesting!

 

[Игорь Коракс]

Thanks, interesting article. The topic is relevant and acute.

 

[Частный детектив. Timofey. Челябинск.]

The problem of finding people is, in fact, painstaking work. It should start immediately, often the police (police) say that a search application is filed after 3 days. It is not true. They also say that only a relative can apply. This is also nonsense, any citizen can apply for any citizen. Just often laziness, callousness and ignorance arise. Wanted time is important, every minute is valuable. Always punished his subordinates for such nonsense.
He drove into their heads - and if you burn in the place of the applicants, what will you do?

I agree to all 100