About scammers, scammers and suckers of detectives.

[secrets]

Colleagues! Do not waste your time or anyone else to discuss a non-existent problem on our forum ...

 

[Виталий Климин]

Well what can I say - SPRING!

 

[Бирюков Кирилл Сергеевич]

It may be rude, but this is my opinion that I have voiced since the first day I was in the profession of Detetiva.

About scammers, scammers and suckers of detectives.
For a long time there has been a heated discussion of various programs regarding private detective work. The creation of trade unions and associations, various SROs, etc.
But alas, this does not bring real fruit to the field of Private Detective Activity.
Too many different hangers-on, crooks, crooks stuck to the feeder.
All and sundry are engaged in detective work, because private detectives are modest fluffy and harmless suckers.
In every city and village there are a lot of different hangers-on eating most of the cake given to the state by detectives.
In other industries, they create associations such as clean hands, calculate and punish, including with the help of detectives and select illegally bitten, many of us participate in these events and know how to do it.
But detectives only sigh and on their sites in the (bad) section only those who are clearly exposed or who have offended them are posted, and scammers, as they scammed and scammed, scammers were scammed and scammed.
But suckers are still detectives and advertise them on their sites and in communities.
More than 80% of dead souls, only 1 - 2% of really working detectives on the MOD site, are no secret
In Russia, at present, less than 1000 people have Private Detective Licenses, of which no more than 20% actually work.
So it turns out that we ourselves advertise scammers and scammers in our profession and rejoice.
Any attempts (at international sites) to bring order to detective work in Russia are immediately perceived with hostility, and most of all not only pseudo colleagues, but also colleagues from neighboring states fit into the discussion.
About 500 people have personal pages of detectives on the MOD site, the question arises - who are they?
More than 50% of them are not licensed, or have dead souls. Etc. etc.
I know a few from my region who have been prosecuted for fraud and scamming clients, there are no licenses for a long time and their sites are working, advertisements are posted on the sites of detective communities, and they both threw and throw clients.
Is it time to stop being suckers and put things in order in their business Lord Detectives?
Everyone positions themselves as great experts in the field of protecting a business, identifying facts of illegal activities in business, offering various checks, etc. etc. but they’re not interested in their business.
Who is stopping to put things in order in their business, to analyze, conduct measures to identify unscrupulous detectives, conduct test purchases, identify illegal detective activities and put everything in its place?
Laziness gentlemen or just the lack of professional skills, or without a sucker and life is bad?
But if Private Detectives themselves cannot protect their business, it remains only to hire charlatans, or to continue to be suckers in their profession.
For reference:
In many areas of Russian business, associations "Clean Hands", etc., have long existed, with their own rules and procedures.

the idea is not bad, but there are a couple of points.
I joined this business not so long ago .. there is no year. Have I encountered scammers? yes faced. Do I scream about them at every stop? no, why? I work within the law. I don’t see the point of misleading people. 1. word of mouth works in our business. 2. "Work colleagues" will learn about your flights faster than anyone. therefore the point? becoming a stick for former colleagues is also not a joyful prospect.

to calculate eagles engaged in detective business without a license? what's the point? people are working fine, there are no complaints, and we should report a crime immediately. Therefore, the idea is not bad, but a sting is not feasible.
to talk about taking clients away from me? this is unlikely. the specifics are narrow, in principle, there is no competition.
therefore, I repeat ... the idea is not bad, but waving a solo sword in the middle of the field is for the most part similar to insanity.

 

[JR Security Consulting Group]

Right. Almost one dead soul on the site. And if you clean them, as I suggested a long time ago, then there will remain 20 percent.

 

[Роберт]

As the license ended this post appeared. Like, Robert, and who are you anyway ?! Fine. Do you work? Yes you goof! Awesome laugh.

 

[Роберт]

I will think about whether I am a sucker. And why is this license necessary? The legislation is about nothing (never changed), there are no rights. Being a 3rd year student, having in my pocket a certificate of a freelance police officer, I had the right to detain offenders, deliver them to the police station, conduct personal searches and searches of personal belongings with witnesses, draw up an appropriate search report, take a written explanation from the offender, deliver him to the police station, use physical force with resistance (this is legal). Also, if through the BHSS, then he could conduct checks and conduct test purchases of goods. And by the way, no one paid a dime for this. (Sly, such freelancers and combatants were given a scholarship with one three)
And now everyone cheats only for money, sometimes very large, although they have no rights at all !!! Just whimper about the new law, which would give the detective the right to send requests to the authorities. That is why it was silent all this time. Say it is nothing. It is strange in general that someone turns to detectives. Indeed, any legally savvy person understands very well that if there are no rights, then there are no guarantees of the work. Why spend money on this ?! Explain.

The result. In principle, all private detectives-suckers.

 

[Роберт]

About the competition. Even some ! And the lion's share of it is precisely those who throw. This negatively affects honest colleagues. Once thrown, and not only one person, but all his entourage, will never turn.

 

[Роберт]

Colleagues! Do not waste your time or anyone else to discuss a non-existent problem on our forum ...

And what kind of problems are you interested in then, colleague? What are you wasting your time on?

 

[Роберт]

Vitya ... It is unlikely that all these calls will receive support .... After all, no one wants to spoil some kind of relationship (even virtual ones) .... Even with the same potential scammers and scammers who have “clung” to our business .... An initiative without support, without creating or organizing a group of people with a common goal, not provided with the proper level of purely organizational support (the presence of their own media ... in electronic form) is doomed to failure ....

Well, personally, my hand will never flinch to put a "private detective" at 159, if he really threw it. This is just the way out, the path of self-cleaning in this profession.

 

[Роберт]

It’s understandable, Jacob!
You and I are creating WILD COMPETITION and AIMING FOR HIMSELF (TO BYPASS OTHER LICENSED PRIVATE DETECTIVES) GIANT CASH FLOWS, i.e. the same "most of the pie given to the state by detectives."

I read and cried!