Announcement of the X IAPD Conference.

[Арсен]

Proposal for the suppression of fraudulent and unfair actions by BH and information collection and suppression services providers
disagreement and discontent between Executor and By customer services. I suggest NP MOD to be an intermediary and a guarantor between By customer and Contractor naturally with a certain financial interest for development NP MOD .
For example:
Customer orders a service of any action, and Executor voices the cost, for example: 5000 rubles. Customer gives his consent, they exchange, all,
necessary documents, after which Customer transfers the indicated amount to the account NP MOD , and the contractor proceeds to complete the order. The indicated amount is stored in the account NP MOD until the service is completed. After order completion Executor sends a written report on the work done with all materials (photos, videos, etc.) business To the customer .
After Customer received a report from Performer , the amount for the work done is paid Contractor . This proposal especially applies to individuals who adhere to linear, bureaucratic thinking and phrases such as (without a piece of paper you are nobody and you can’t call you in any way, false detectives, scammers, etc.) .
Maybe after it will be easier.

 

[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

And the request of persons who do not have the status of a licensed detective, to refrain from commenting on this topic.

Maybe I should leave this topic ???

Your next post has been deleted.

I ask you not to clown in the subject and keep yourself correct in the future.

 

[Детектив-Юг]

Good day!
Congratulations to all on the past holidays!
Perhaps I speak a little rudely, but if we talk objectively about Private Detective Activities, we must first start with the detectives themselves based on the letters of the Law.
The Law clearly spells out: Private detective services are entitled to be provided by an IP having a valid IP and a License to carry out Private Detective (Detective) activities.
Everything else is DIGITAL misleading potential customers.
No need to bring everything together. (forum users, BH and other structures involved in various activities)

 

[НСК-СБ]

Colleagues, write your questions and comments on the current agenda. Who thinks about this?
• Creation of a group with representatives of the legislative branch to discuss changes in the current law
• Creation of a code of professional ethics following the example of the code of lawyers
• Creation of a Russian registry of current detectives on the basis of information available to the Russian Guard • Organization of the issuance of analytical recommendations based on the work of specific detectives. Fundraising for issuing recommendations
• Promotion of detective work through their own and third-party media
• Community self-regulation for fraud protection
• Development of mechanisms for interacting with ILV to block fraud sites
• Creation of a base of unscrupulous detective, security and other structures for further transfer to interested bodies.

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Colleagues, friends - if you will, and I will briefly express my opinion on this agenda:
1. As far as I know, there is already such a group with the participation of the ARD - maybe it will join forces ...?
2. Create a Code prof. ethics is the right decision, the main thing is to correctly accept, approve and implement it!
3. Creating a register of current detectives - it must be relevant, and it is being maintained by the Federal Guard, so it must be published!
And for the organization of issuing recommendations and attracting funding - I agree - you need to work in this direction ...
4. The popularization of detective work through its own and third-party media - I agree, it is necessary to work in this direction ...
5. Fraudsters also must be fought, especially since the victims themselves are contacting us.
6. Development of mechanisms for interacting with ILV to block fraud sites - I agree, it is imperative to work in this direction.
7. Creation of a base of unscrupulous detective, security and other structures for further transfer to interested bodies - with protection, you probably do not need to bother - this is not our business. Any databases are not relevant the next day. Unfair - means crooks? And this is paragraph 5.

 

[НСК-СБ]

Perhaps I speak a little rudely, but if we talk objectively about Private Detective Activities, we must first start with the detectives themselves based on the letters of the Law.
The Law clearly spells out: Private detective services are entitled to be provided by an IP having a valid IP and a License to carry out Private Detective (Detective) activities.
Everything else is DIGITAL misleading potential customers.
No need to bring everything together. (forum users, BH and other structures involved in various activities)

Viktor Anatolyevich, I respect you, but here I do not quite agree with you ...
And what do you think, I can express my opinion here without a black hole license, can I provide information and consulting services? And yet - I can provide services by organization private detective work?

 

[Демитрий]

Dear colleagues - members of the MOU and those (licensed) and others (not licensed), naturally we have no doubts about professionalism and decency in each other, but licensed and not licensed are in different weight categories before the law and the state budget system ... and we licensed, unlike unlicensed, pay the state primarily for the right to be called and on various resources to position ourselves as DETECTIVES and provide DETECTIVE SERVICES. Therefore, I think it will be fair, at least to respect the parity in the use of the names DETECTIVE and DETECTIVE SERVICES !!! Thank you for understanding!

 

[НСК-СБ]

Therefore, I think it will be fair at least respected compliance with the parity in the use of the names DETECTIVE and DETECTIVE SERVICES !!!

Dima (Demetrius), it’s interesting which of the members of the MOD could treat without respect to observance of parity in the use of the names DETECTIVE ???

(licensed) and others (not licensed)

are in different weight categories before the law and the state budget system

and we licensed, unlike unlicensed, pay the state primarily for the right to be called and on various resources to position ourselves as DETECTIVES and provide DETECTIVE SERVICES.

And what are you talking about - not licensed - about whom?

 

[НСК-СБ]

Dear colleagues - members of the MOD and those (licensed) and others (not licensed)

Demitri, I got my first license for BH in 96 and was a BSP (certificate is on my page), and I think it’s not worth building and teaching the MOD members in observing the detective’s “parity” here. Who does not have a license for BH, he will never position himself as a detective from us.

 

[Арсен]

Dear colleagues - members of the MOU and those (licensed) and others (not licensed), naturally we have no doubts about professionalism and decency in each other, but licensed and not licensed are in different weight categories before the law and the state budget system ... and we licensed, unlike unlicensed, pay the state primarily for the right to be called and on various resources to position ourselves as DETECTIVES and provide DETECTIVE SERVICES. Therefore, I think it will be fair, at least to respect the parity in the use of the names DETECTIVE and DETECTIVE SERVICES !!! Thank you for understanding!

Dmitry Viktorovich, Good evening! Yes, indeed, we are not licensed, unlike licensed, we are in different weight categories. The difference between us is that you, if you have a license, can call yourself BH, and We do not. But We can call ourselves differently, for example: Lawyers, Information Agents, Security Council employees, Business analysts, etc. And we can do this absolutely legally and carry out all the actions provided for by the Federal Law on NPV. And not only We can do this, but any citizen, only a citizen does not have the right to receive money for this. The license does not give anything good, except the right to perform, the specified actions for money. But she puts a lot of prohibitions and adds a lot of responsibilities. Here, you licensed BH is not entitled to carry out photo-video shooting in private and office premises, without the consent of the relevant persons. And I go, for example, to the FMS, put the video camera on the table to the Head of the District FMS, without his consent, and shoot. No, I am by no means against the license for the implementation of NPVs. But constantly blaming people who do not have it and depriving them of the right to express their opinion, let alone comparing the implementation of any activity without a license with FRAUD, is in my opinion not correct, since these actions have a different legal concept.

 

[НСК-СБ]

On the third question ... with regards to the register of current detectives ... before the conference, it is necessary to identify specific individuals who will deal with these issues. Then, according to information received from the Russian Guard, compile your own register of current, working detectives .... and not just registered as such .... And for this, it is necessary to determine with specific persons from among the full members of the MOD who will check on the issue of whether the person actually registered as a BH is working or not .... And all this must be done probably before the day of the meeting conferences .... Something like this ....

Andrei Valerievich, how do you imagine -

compile your registry of current, working detectives .... and not just registered as such ....

And someone is unlikely to be engaged in checks at the expense of MOD (for free) - does the person actually registered as a BH work or not - who needs it and for what ... ??? If only the Russian Guard - and that is unlikely.