Psychology of handwriting. Graph analysis with Inessa Goldberg

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Dear Konstantin, I already asked not to drop everything here that you can find on the Internet about handwriting, I do not want to lose the level of discussion.

Adored Inessa! And what can you put here so as not to lose the level of discussion?
Alas, you are here alone with us - the "mother of Russian graphology", and we are your stepsons, not yet very educated ...
This, as from the first class to the second, in your own terminology, is “step by step”.
The level of discussion, therefore, can only be increased, for you - gradually introducing us to your skill, and for us - diligently learning from you, growing above yourself every minute ...
Some especially harmful stepchildren ask questions more often than others, since it is difficult to learn, but, therefore, they are the most the roads and loved (in the good sense of the word).
Another question I have for you is this: What is the difference between graphology and graphoanalysis?
Intuitively, that the second is part of the first, and what about? : oops:

 

[Инесса Гольдберг]

Some, especially harmful stepchildren, ask questions more often than others, since it is difficult to learn, but, therefore, they are the most dear and beloved (in the good sense of the word).

Konstantin, that’s right!
This applies to those who ask really interesting questions, and not the same ones that the teacher has already explained this way or that, or - questions for the sake of harm. This I do not personally, but clarify about the "meticulous students."

Nevertheless, I would not want to be given names, even "mother"))). I can repeat who I am (see previous posts), as well as the fact that I have not invented any bicycle. Therefore, adoring is somehow embarrassing, Konstantin

You ask, "what then to bring", if not everything from the Internet? It’s simple: you don’t have to bring it if you are not familiar with something, but simply ask someone who is familiar to advise yourself on something qualitative (proven), which is more logical, right? I hope you yourself did not place the "test" of the 7 signs of the handwriting of high hopes on your citation.

There is a large amount of professional literature, but almost all of it is in foreign languages (the bibliography is on my portal). If you read carefully, then remember well my explanations about why this happens. There is nothing to be done, in something our former USSR was “ahead of the rest”, but it was definitely not graphology, neuropsychology or genetics.

Science did not develop in accordance with natural progress, but in accordance with the decrees of the party and government. The listed disciplines were in disgrace, because they argued that people are individual, are not born "blank sheet". The maverick was almost an abusive word, and it is a threat to dare to assert that "there are irreplaceable ones." Psychology and psychiatry are already beginning to gradually pull towards the European level, the rest is far away.

Now - to your question about how graphology differs from graph analysis. There is no need to repeat about handwriting - I think I wrote in sufficient detail. Now with the rest. In essence, they are no different. Graphoanalysis - is not "part of the first, graphology", but it is, graphology, simply abbreviated: " grafo -logical + analysis "Then why two concepts?

The second concept was introduced into Russian terminology by your humble servant: see Encyclopedia - Wiktionary . Since “graphology” in the Russian language was too much connected with amateurs, an unscientific approach, just an intuitive “handwriting fortune telling” - this concept was introduced in order to separate questionable associations from a scientific approach - an area recognized and developed in European countries and Israel, and based on the leading doctrines of German, French and Israeli schools.

“Ideologically” it was very important to make it clear: graph analysis is a modern, real graphology based on the latest knowledge and research. And not salon entertainment. I also had to do this because of the large number of "imitators". And now the term “graphoanalysis” for me and my followers is a hint: when the self-proclaimed “graphologist” begins to write articles (or talks about himself) using the word “graphoanalysis” - and at the same time I know that he did not learn from me, "on the thief and the hat is on."

 

[Детективное агентство Тула]

to separate dubious associations from a scientific approach - an area recognized and developed in European countries and Israel, and based on the leading doctrines of German, French and Israeli schools.

The main criterion for the truth of knowledge is practice.

 

[Инесса Гольдберг]

Re: Psychology of handwriting. Curve analysis with Innessa Goldb

The main criterion for the truth of knowledge is practice.

I totally agree.
However, this is true with respect to real practice, and not with what amateurs sometimes substitute for this concept.
I often come across their approach - they say, "I don’t need to learn anything (your theory is not needed at all), I already have enough" practice "- I’ve seen so many handwritings in my life, I understand something."

This is where the meaning of "practice" is being replaced. Real practice, when conducted under the guidance of an experienced specialist, is priceless, since it is based solely on scientific theory. But practice does not happen "on its own." This is not practice, but looking at handwriting when a person at his own peril and risk draws his own conclusions, guided not by science, but by his personal "common sense." And it is dangerous. You do not trust, for example, your health or the health of your children to such "practice" - without education, knowledge of patterns and theory, just because he "saw a lot of sick people."

"There is nothing more practical than a good theory" (c)

 

[Детективное агентство Тула]

Practice without theory is blind, theory without practice is dead.

 

[частный детектив Болгария]

Re: Psychology of handwriting. Curve analysis with Innessa Goldb

Inessa, welcome to us / a little late /, but then I was in the midst of a debate. In my work I didn’t have to work with such a specialist, it’s a pity it would be nice if someone also “got on this bike and drove confidently”, and without hobbling! Pleased to meet you !
Regards: Eugene

 

[Евгений СБ]

Inessa welcome to the forum!
Pleased to meet you!

 

[Частный детектив Оренбург]

Glad to meet you on the forum. He lagged a little after the vacation, but re-read with interest all the messages on this topic. Ready to work together.

 

[Инесса Гольдберг]

Re: Psychology of handwriting. Curve analysis with Innessa Goldb

Greetings Eugene from Bulgaria, Eugene from Moscow and Anatolia from the Orenburg region!
We are already working with some colleagues from this topic on suspicious comrades.

Thank you for your attention, I will be glad to answer various questions - and not necessarily to the service, but also to friendship.
Yes, to all who were interested in the debates on this topic, I recommend subscribing to the Scientific Graphology magazine for free (you can read it openly from the Archive without downloading it by downloading it to your computer). There just the other day there is a number with articles on topics that have affected our discussions.

P.S. Konstantin, completely agree about theory and practice, one without the other is meaningless.

To moderator: I don’t receive notifications about new answers in the topic, so I can’t respond promptly, are there any solutions? Thank!

 

[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

I was on vacation. We will deal with this.