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[Андрей Захаров]

Good day Mill))) I have a question of the following nature. Is there any register of Russian experts in polygraph examiners? If there is, then, of course, where you can get acquainted with it. As far as I know, permission to conduct precisely examinations using a polygraph is given to a person after passing a certain course of training. So, where (in which educational institutions of the Russian Federation) can a person get the appropriate admission. The question is by no means idle. I just want to find out in which educational institutions (in the absence of a unified roster of experts in this field) it is theoretically possible to obtain information about specialists (namely experts) who have the appropriate approvals. Thank you in advance for your reply

 

[Milla]

Good day Mill))) I have a question of the following nature. Is there any register of Russian experts in polygraph examiners? If there is, then, of course, where you can get acquainted with it. As far as I know, permission to conduct precisely examinations using a polygraph is given to a person after passing a certain course of training. So, where (in which educational institutions of the Russian Federation) can a person get the appropriate admission. The question is by no means idle. I just want to find out in which educational institutions (in the absence of a unified roster of experts in this field) it is theoretically possible to obtain information about specialists (namely experts) who have the appropriate approvals. Thank you in advance for your reply

Andrey, good afternoon.

We need to call a spade a spade - today we have a lot of "experts". But who are they? With training at the LLC, they present certificates after a 2-week course, then they pay at the SRO, 100 hours pass the forensic expert polygraph examiner and for these people a certificate of an expert polygraph examiner from the SRO + a certificate that they are competent.

Now let's turn to the fact that we have not yet offered a real education in Russia except ANO DPO "ABB" - that program according to the international standard, with an international exam, in person from 400 hours - no one in Russia gives. So how do you call polygraph examiners?

For example, [DLMURL] https://www.inpsycho.ru/ [/ DLMURL] - Here we introduced the training of forensic polygraph examiners with a program of 1000 hours. But the program and the teaching staff require a new program, as other people in other countries work.

In Russia, in connection with the retirement of many people from law enforcement agencies, they found an excellent business for themselves - a polygraph - no one exercises quality control! The state does not see income, since this direction is mainly a shadow business, or rather illegal in the private segment of the economy.

So are the schools. They translated it, they appropriated methods for themselves, they stuck fake certificates, or they were even given state certificates / certificates under the “roofs” of the HPE, there is only one problem - FORGET TO KNOWLEDGE KNOWLEDGE.

With the opening of the ABO DPO "ABB", I realized that few people are interested in knowledge - everyone is interested in the minimum number of hours in training - preferably 10 days, 2 weeks, plus a legitimate document from some university. What is the result? They joined the SRO and that’s all - they became an expert on paper.

We proposed to keep such a register with the STATE, but first you need to make a specialty in the register of specialties “POLYGRAPHOLOGIST”, and then “EXPERT-POLYGRAPHOLOGIST” will appear.

For example, by international standards, you can become an expert if you conduct a minimum of 200-300 tests. They must be notarized so that the Association realistically recognizes that there is testing. Since over the experience of work it is possible to do 10 tests in five years, and this will mean one thing - a person cannot become an expert in 5 years in 10 tests.

We have no system - neither from the perspective of legislation, nor from constitutional human rights, which also a certain algorithm must protect from pseudo-polygraph examiners.

Having studied international standards in this direction, having received a real education in the USA, you can make a statement that everyone needs to LEARN first, and then we'll talk about the roster of experts.

Crusts are one thing. And nobody canceled knowledge and professionalism.

Respectfully,
Milla

 

[Milla]

com / index.php? threads / 9629 # p116883 - here I published the layout of the education of polygraph examiners in Russia. I think it’s useful to know what is happening.

Respectfully,
Milla

 

[Андрей Захаров]

Thank you, Milla))) Regarding the level of education, it’s clear, but still, you couldn’t say which educational institutions are involved in the “training” of the so-called “experts” ... Or you don’t have such information ...

 

[Milla]

Thank you, Milla))) Regarding the level of education, it’s clear, but still, you couldn’t say which educational institutions are involved in the “training” of the so-called “experts” ... Or you don’t have such information ...

Andrei,

Prepare on paper - I wrote the link to the university above
"... [DLMURL] https://www.inpsycho.ru/ [/ DLMURL] - They introduced the training of forensic polygraph examiners with a program of 1000 hours. But the program and the teaching staff require a new program, as other people work in other countries ... "- but it's on paper.

The de facto ABO DPO ABB prepares expert polygraph examiners according to international standards. But this is not 1000 hours, but a diploma of professional retraining. By knowledge, you get full training. Then the rest can only be unlearned for a year here - [DLMURL] https://www.inpsycho.ru/ [/ DLMURL] - and become an expert on paper.

 

[Андрей Захаров]

Many thanks to Milla))) We will keep in mind, so to speak))) If you have any questions about Mordovia, please contact, I will always be happy to help ... I am glad to have the opportunity to contact you as a pro ...

 

[Milla]

Many thanks to Milla))) We will keep in mind, so to speak))) If you have any questions about Mordovia, please contact, I will always be happy to help ... I am glad to have the opportunity to contact you as a pro ...

Andrei Valerievich, if anything in Mordovia, it’s only to you. Agreed.

 

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