The minister allowed the police and private investigators to cooperate.

[Георгий Ахенко]

I think gentlemen, that the Minister of Internal Affairs looks at a private investigation as at illiterate grandchildren of Dzerzhinsky ..... quote "Order stipulates their new status - voluntary police assistants", such as at the dawn of the creation of such the state like Ukraine, in 1992, some wise men wrote an essay type instruction like 0030, the current Ukrainian version, and so there they came up with a new kind of apparatus that they called this operational miracle public order assistants enormous commemorative , then this nonsense was canceled a year later (since it’s only a beautiful fashionable pun) so what I’m talking about is complete nonsense from the Ministry of Internal Affairs regarding private detectives to equate such an institution of civil society with such insignificant and ineffective Soviet law enforcement institutions as DND, outside police officers, and so on. I believe that private detectives should be equated with the status of operative officers of the criminal investigation department or the 7th service, clearance must be granted, enter categories of private detectives starting from the constant use of firearms and special equipment, unlimited use of databases not of the general police but of operational units and design as "cutters" with the ensuing from here .. and plus responsibility for abuse ....

 

[Generalpi]

I know only one thing that a detective should not be dependent on the police. And also the phrase public free helpers sounds somehow funny.

 

[Роберт]

I think gentlemen, that the Minister of Internal Affairs looks at a private investigation as at illiterate grandchildren of Dzerzhinsky ..... quote "Order stipulates their new status - voluntary police assistants", such as at the dawn of the creation of such the state like Ukraine, in 1992, some wise men wrote an essay type instruction like 0030, the current Ukrainian version, and so there they came up with a new kind of apparatus that they called this operational miracle public order assistants enormous commemorative , then this nonsense was canceled a year later (since it’s only a beautiful fashionable pun) so what I’m talking about is complete nonsense from the Ministry of Internal Affairs regarding private detectives to equate such an institution of civil society with such insignificant and ineffective Soviet law enforcement institutions as DND, outside police officers, and so on. I believe that private detectives should be equated with the status of operative officers of the criminal investigation department or the 7th service, clearance must be granted, enter categories of private detectives starting from the constant use of firearms and special equipment, unlimited use of databases not of the general police but of operational units and design as "cutters" with the ensuing from here .. and plus responsibility for abuse ....

You're scaring me!!! This is a very serious mental deviation (in the understanding of officials), requiring an immediate medical response.

 

[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

Private detectives equated with police

Private investigators reacted positively to this. However, experts believe that this can lead to abuse.

The order of the Minister of Internal Affairs of Russia Vladimir Kolokoltsev allows detective agencies to participate in official investigations conducted by employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. According to the order, private detectives and security companies will be able to conclude agreements with the police.

Detectives will be involved in solving crimes, and private security workers will be involved in policing during mass events. About this writes "RBC Daily."
Police officers and detectives worked together before. Now this interaction is legalized, says private investigator Oleg Zimin: “The range of practical assistance and interaction with criminal investigators will expand. The minister’s order secures a specific police officer when concluding an agreement. Suppose we have such and such a person missing, could, on the basis of an agreement, we recommend that the injured party contact you. I understand that this can go from the other side, in the process of the same business communication as it was before ”.

The admission of private detectives to official investigations can lead to abuse, said Alexander Zabeyda, managing partner of the Zabeyda, Kasatkin, Saushkin & Partners law firm: “It’s unlikely that the secret of the operative-search activity will suffer. This type of information belongs to the state secret. Detectives will not be given a special security clearance that provides access. Even the minister himself is not authorized. Similar decisions, enshrined in an order of the minister, can also lead to abuse. We can imagine such a situation that dishonest operatives can fabricate some information that a murder order or something else is being received against a businessman. Then call the victim and recommend that he use competent detectives, who will simply be a point of pumping money from the businessman’s pocket into the pocket of operatives, under the auspices of eliminating this danger. ”

Experts also fear that private investigators will now have legal access to police databases and will use the information from them in the interests of their clients. In addition, the preparation of raider captures may be simplified.

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[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

I think gentlemen, that the Minister of Internal Affairs looks at a private investigation as at illiterate grandchildren of Dzerzhinsky ..... quote "Order stipulates their new status - voluntary police assistants", such as at the dawn of the creation of such the state like Ukraine, in 1992, some wise men wrote an essay type instruction like 0030, the current Ukrainian version, and so there they came up with a new kind of apparatus that they called this operational miracle public order assistants enormous commemorative , then this nonsense was canceled a year later (since it’s only a beautiful fashionable pun) so what I’m talking about is complete nonsense from the Ministry of Internal Affairs regarding private detectives to equate such an institution of civil society with such insignificant and ineffective Soviet law enforcement institutions as DND, outside police officers, and so on. I believe that private detectives should be equated with the status of operative officers of the criminal investigation department or the 7th service, clearance must be granted, enter categories of private detectives starting from the constant use of firearms and special equipment, unlimited use of databases not of the general police but of operational units and design as "cutters" with the ensuing from here .. and plus responsibility for abuse ....

This is what you need to fight for!

 

[Роберт]

By the way, combatants and freelance police officers had enough rights. Could detain and deliver to police departments, check documents, draw up acts of control purchases, etc. Participate in operational investigative activities, observation, interviews with eyewitnesses, etc. At the same time they showed their certificates to citizens, by the way!
And the attempt on their life and health was equated to the attempt on the law enforcement officer.

 

[Роберт]

I think gentlemen, that the Minister of Internal Affairs looks at a private investigation as at illiterate grandchildren of Dzerzhinsky ..... quote "Order stipulates their new status - voluntary police assistants", such as at the dawn of the creation of such the state like Ukraine, in 1992, some wise men wrote an essay type instruction like 0030, the current Ukrainian version, and so there they came up with a new kind of apparatus that they called this operational miracle public order assistants enormous commemorative , then this nonsense was canceled a year later (since it’s only a beautiful fashionable pun) so what I’m talking about is complete nonsense from the Ministry of Internal Affairs regarding private detectives to equate such an institution of civil society with such insignificant and ineffective Soviet law enforcement institutions as DND, outside police officers, and so on. I believe that private detectives should be equated with the status of operative officers of the criminal investigation department or the 7th service, clearance must be granted, enter categories of private detectives starting from the constant use of firearms and special equipment, unlimited use of databases not of the general police but of operational units and design as "cutters" with the ensuing from here .. and plus responsibility for abuse ....

This is what you need to fight for!

No need to fight for it, believe me !!! Especially for privacy !!! You read the latest pearls of legislation on the disclosure of state. secrets? : D in a month half of detectives are transplanted?
And I wonder how you are going to get a license for working with SS documents? Equipping a weapons room is a hundred times easier !!!! And how much does it cost money ?! Do not know? : D: D

 

[Роберт]

And yet, but the fig need permission for weapons?! Who needs us !!! : D how are you planning to use it? !!! : D why? !!!
If at least once you get it, then they will immediately kill the attempted murder. Which, by the way, can be quite logical. A good lawyer will always make this logical !!!! You have a client, there is interest! Therefore, there is a motive. And the witnesses who describe in paints how you waved the barrel in front of them with a cry: - I will solve all !!!! I'll kill the bitch !!!! -
the lawyer will "find" a couple of dozen!

 

[Плотников Юрий Михайлович]

What question?
This is all good, but the bases of airlines and the railway are more needed in the work. Base of real estate and cars. Also, information from banks about loans, availability and movement of funds in accounts. Information from the pension fund and medical history.

That they themselves do not all have. : lol:

Not all, but they have! I also forgot the border guards, they have their own base of driving in and out!

 

[Роберт]

As for the border guards, I can upset everyone! They have only those who are oriented!