Competitive Intelligence and the ARD Act. Adapting special methods

[JR Security Consulting Group]

Colleagues get information in any way possible. The main thing to call these actions is not ORM, but for example: (detective activities)
and everything will be alright. All the same, our activities are half illegal. As if we did not try to comply with the law, in view of the circumstances
in our activities, human rights are indirectly violated. And if at all fully guided by the letter of the law, then it is better to
do not engage in NPV.

Then it’s better not to do our business at all.

 

[Бюро Рысь]

This is the salt. We are discussing the empty, it is better to learn the hardware)))) If the DSP document is on the Internet and the admins did not close it, then this is the fault of the admins, and not the one who found it.

You have interesting logic if the administrator could not ensure the safety of the document, then it is his fault, not the one who whistled the data and sold it to someone! It’s very interesting, this is from the series if I put the bag on the bench and it was stolen from me anyway, I don’t put things (well, in our country it is by and large), and the one who stole didn’t steal at all, because the thing was in public place, which means it’s common, that is, nobody’s, but according to the law it is a theft! At our place in Petrovka (a bazaar of books and CDs with whatever you want) you can buy anything from chipboard to orders 00 and SS, not counting the bases you want, they also seem to know everything in the open access room, even the cops base there, but still... . You can download a lot on the Internet on pirates, everything is also in the public domain, but this does not mean that everything in the public domain can be easily taken and do what you want. If this were so, then for hackers everything is in the public domain, but they are illegal! Do not forget that “well-wishers” can make the information publicly available without the owner’s knowledge, but on his behalf this is the time by which they got the question and it’s two, as well as all the information that you dig or you or someone else needs to use it correctly and these are three!
Methods can be different. The main thing is that they are all within the framework of the Law!

the detective is limited by the scope of the NPV, the citizen is limited only Administrative Code and Criminal Code

And where did all the other Laws go ???

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

This is the salt. We are discussing the empty, it is better to learn the hardware)))) If the DSP document is on the Internet and the admins did not close it, then this is the fault of the admins, and not the one who found it.

You have interesting logic if the administrator could not ensure the safety of the document, then it is his fault, not the one who whistled the data and sold it to someone!

Sorry, but how do you determine what is stolen and what is not protected information? In my opinion, if the admin has to protect something, it protects. If, nevertheless, something that should not fall into open access has fallen - well, probably, those who are responsible for this should take up the removal of this from open access. But how can I, as an Internet user, determine what is possible and what is not? Even if I want to do it.

You can download a lot on the Internet on pirates, everything is also in the public domain, but this does not mean that everything in the public domain can be easily taken and do what you want.

And again, the same question. There is a struggle with pirated sites, access to them is limited. This can be seen in a number of torrents now. At the same time, many films and books are on torrents with the consent of the copyright holder, or because they have expired protection. How do you suggest users to install this? This is about books and films, as I just don’t know what you mean - therefore I’m talking about the most understandable.

If this were so, then for hackers everything is in the public domain, but they are illegal!

Excuse me, did you get this from here? A hacker breaks into the security system - and only then does he become a hacker. If a person takes something in a truly open access - how can his actions, even theoretically, constitute the corpus delicti? Have you read the Criminal Code in this part? If not, read it. If yes, tell me. Only, please proceeding from the Law, and not feelings of inner conviction.

 

[Бюро Рысь]

This is the salt. We are discussing the empty, it is better to learn the hardware)))) If the DSP document is on the Internet and the admins did not close it, then this is the fault of the admins, and not the one who found it.

You have interesting logic if the administrator could not ensure the safety of the document, then it is his fault, not the one who whistled the data and sold it to someone!

Sorry, but how do you determine what is stolen and what is not protected information? In my opinion, if the admin has to protect something, it protects. If, nevertheless, something that should not fall into open access has fallen - well, probably, those who are responsible for this should take up the removal of this from open access. But how can I, as an Internet user, determine what is possible and what is not? Even if I want to do it.

Particleboard and in Africa Particleboard it cannot be in the public domain!

You can download a lot on the Internet on pirates, everything is also in the public domain, but this does not mean that everything in the public domain can be easily taken and do what you want.

And again, the same question. There is a struggle with pirated sites, access to them is limited. This can be seen in a number of torrents now. At the same time, many films and books are on torrents with the consent of the copyright holder, or because they have expired protection. How do you suggest users to install this? This is about books and films, as I just don’t know what you mean - therefore I’m talking about the most understandable.

I talked about databases and stuff ... and movies and others you yourself answered your own question "with the consent of the copyright holder, or because they expired protection"

If this were so, then for hackers everything is in the public domain, but they are illegal!

Excuse me, did you get this from here? A hacker breaks into the security system - and only then does he become a hacker. If a person takes something in a truly open access - how can his actions, even theoretically, constitute the corpus delicti? Have you read the Criminal Code in this part? If not, read it. If yes, tell me. Only, please proceeding from the Law, and not feelings of inner conviction.

You do not understand the essence of the matter.

This is the salt. We are discussing the empty, it is better to learn the hardware)))) If the DSP document is on the Internet and the admins did not close it, then this is the fault of the admins, and not the one who found it.

You have interesting logic if the admin could not ensure the safety of the document, then it is his fault, not the one who whistled the data and sold them to someone!

The essence of the question is not how to get the info, but how then to dispose of it, and chipboard is not a toy.

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

Particleboard and in Africa Particleboard it cannot be in the public domain! The essence of the question is not how to get the info, but how then to dispose of it, and chipboard is not a toy.

Do you know that chipboard has been canceled at present? Not officially.
But even if it were, how do you propose to determine whether this mark is removed from the document or not? After all, there are many documents on which "Particleboard" was once placed, and then removed.

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

... and films and others you yourself answered your own question "with the consent of the copyright holder, or because they expired protection"

My question was not this, but how do you suggest the user to determine - what with the consent of the copyright holder, and what not?

Well, about hackers, for whom, supposedly, "everything is in the public domain" - you said. I replied that this is not so, since a hacker is breaking into a security system. And if there was no hacking and he took the information in the public domain - so he is no hacker in this case. As far as I understand, you don’t argue with this already?

 

[Бюро Рысь]

Particleboard and in Africa Particleboard it cannot be in the public domain! The essence of the question is not how to get the info, but how then to dispose of it, and chipboard is not a toy.

Do you know that chipboard has been canceled at present? Not officially.
But even if it were, how do you propose to determine whether this mark is removed from the document or not? After all, there are many documents on which "Particleboard" was once placed, and then removed.

... and films and others you yourself answered your own question "with the consent of the copyright holder, or because they expired protection"

My question was not this, but how do you suggest the user to determine - what with the consent of the copyright holder, and what not?

No knowledge is no excuse!

Well, about hackers, for whom, supposedly "everything is in the public domain" - you said .

You are not careful i said

If it were so then everything is open for hackers

I replied that this is not so, since a hacker is breaking into a security system. And if there was no hacking and he took the information in the public domain - so he is no hacker in this case. As far as I understand, you don’t argue with this already?

I didn’t say that to argue with that!

 

[Бедеров Игорь Сергеевич]

Well, say Evgeny Leonidovich and not a detective, for a minute !!!

Particleboard - may be in a postcard (Masalovich review carefully again)

I repeat ... some information is publicly available, you need to get to the other, and think of the third ...
And everything will turn out, Ruslan ... I believe in you ...

 

[Бюро Рысь]

I repeat ... some information is publicly available, you need to get to the other, and think of the third ...
And everything will turn out, Ruslan ... I believe in you ...

Thank you for your trust and faith in me !

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

No knowledge is no excuse!

Not always. You are probably aware of it yourself. If ignorance is not imprudence (and, as I understand it, intentionally it cannot be intent), then there is no fault. And without guilt there is no punishment.

You are not careful i said If it were so then everything is open for hackers

Yeah, that's right. But this "if" refers to a handbag, freely lying on the street. Am I not confusing anything? If I don’t confuse, then which of us is really inattentive?

And the last thing I wanted to ask: Do you always answer questions that are not addressed to you (the question was originally for Igor Bederov to his post)? And also do not answer those that are addressed to you (to which, oddly enough, just Igor Bederov is responsible for you)? https://forum.detective-agency.info/ ... 22 & t = 10976

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When a question was asked on a topic in an open forum, I answer it if I have such an opportunity. If suddenly you are unhappy with this - there is such a button - "Private message" is called. You know, it helps to get an answer exclusively from the person you want