Opportunities and limitations of automatic detection of negative

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

I watched the program. I found it in the AppStore using the built-in search (it goes there under the Russian name "Search Audit" and, by the way, for some reason does not offer a free installation at all). In general, installed, turned on and looked.

I got the impression that it makes sense for a mass check of contractors by the forces of a not too experienced (and, accordingly, not too highly paid) specialist. Apparently, its main value is that it does not allow forgetting about those factors that need to be paid attention.
Most likely, after she gives the result - those who passed it with the highest score can be taken to work, but the rest must be dealt with in more detail.
In the reviews, the people there complain that she does not research the small business too well. As I understand it, because many simply don’t pass normal reporting, even if they are conscientious.

It is not clear who the program is designed for - with iPads, it seems to me, security guards do not go that often. And detectives, as I understood from communicating with them, relatively rarely work for companies at the system level.

Here is my opinion. However, I practically do not check the integrity of companies, and if I do, then, due to the specifics of my work, I do it from a completely different angle. At the Forum, there are those who work in this direction constantly. Perhaps you need to talk there.

 

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I watched the program. I found it in the AppStore using the built-in search (it goes there under the Russian name "Search Audit" and, by the way, for some reason does not offer a free installation at all). In general, installed, turned on and looked.

I got the impression that it makes sense for a mass check of contractors by the forces of a not too experienced (and, accordingly, not too highly paid) specialist. Apparently, its main value is that it does not allow forgetting about those factors that need to be paid attention.
Most likely, after she gives the result - those who passed it with the highest score can be taken to work, but the rest must be dealt with in more detail.
In the reviews, the people there complain that she does not research the small business too well. As I understand it, because many simply don’t pass normal reporting, even if they are conscientious.

It is not clear who the program is designed for - with iPads, it seems to me, security guards do not go that often. And detectives, as I understood from communicating with them, relatively rarely work for companies at the system level.

Here is my opinion. However, I practically do not check the integrity of companies, and if I do, then, due to the specifics of my work, I do it from a completely different angle. At the Forum, there are those who work in this direction constantly. Perhaps you need to talk there.

Eugene You downloaded the old version, which is paid. A free new version is here [DLMURL] https://itunes.apple.com/app/detecti [/ DLMURL] ...? L = en & mt = 8

However, the functionality of the old and new versions is almost the same, with the exception of one - in the new version, the user helps to set the Rosstat coefficients.

You have not much impression of the ownership of the program. Indeed, at first glance it may seem that the main value of the program is not to forget about those factors that require the attention of a detective. But the fact is that the program was prepared as a result of work on the methodology for conducting a Search Audit - determining the business reliability of small businesses. And the technique, by definition, is banal and boring)

About the reviews. The people who write reviews often do not like to read the help (((As I said, the program is tailored for micro enterprises with the number of employees from 1 to 6, as well as for organizations that do not hand over financial reporting. There are plenty of methods for checking small and medium enterprises.

And I cannot agree with you regarding the fact that if the company does not submit reports, then it is in good faith. Put yourself in the place of an investor: which of the two companies you choose, what gives the financial reporting, or the company that violates the financial discipline?

Thanks for the link to SPKR.
respectfully
Alexander

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

Eugene You downloaded the old version, which is paid. A free new version is here [DLMURL] https://itunes.apple.com/app/detecti [/ DLMURL] ...? L = en & mt = 8

However, the functionality of the old and new versions is almost the same, with the exception of one - in the new version, the user helps to set the Rosstat coefficients.

Yes, there is not that money to worry about - that's why I downloaded it. The main thing is that it works the same way. And access to the Rosstat data is a thing, and so is understandable.

You have not much impression about the ownership of the program. Indeed, at first glance it may seem that the main value of the program is not to forget about those factors that require the attention of a detective. But the fact is that the program was prepared as a result of work on the methodology for conducting a Search Audit - determining the business reliability of small businesses. And the technique, by definition, is banal and boring)

Well, that’s how I understand it: interest in studying a small business can arise, perhaps, only from a security guard of a company that intends to become its supplier. Investors in small business ... well, maybe they happen, of course, but so far I have only seen them in the form of "business angels" for startups. Such - yes, there really are. However, the “business angel” is not interested in reporting at all; he is only interested in the prospects of the idea.
While I can not imagine other consumers. But the question is: "Who will buy it?" - fundamental in any business.

About the reviews. The people who write reviews often do not like to read the help (((As I said, the program is tailored for micro enterprises with the number of employees from 1 to 6, as well as for organizations that do not hand over financial reporting. There are plenty of methods for checking small and medium enterprises.

Maybe. That's why I say - this is not my area, I have a rather specific specialization - information war. financial and other indicators are important to me in a company for almost the sole purpose of finding a support for compromising it or, on the contrary, protecting it in the information field.
And for the same reason, he recommended turning to where, as I know for sure, normal, reasonable practitioner-safety practitioners gathered.

And I cannot agree with you regarding the fact that if the company does not submit reports, then it is in good faith. Put yourself in the place of an investor: which of the two companies you choose, what gives the financial reporting, or the company that violates the financial discipline?

Well, about investors, I expressed my opinion above. And about Rosstat ... a huge number of perfectly normal companies aren’t reporting there - especially among small ones. This is not a tax or accounting statement, for which the punishment will absolutely follow. If Rosstat itself does not resort to demanding surrender (he sometimes does this, according to some logic of his own), then entrepreneurs spat on him a hundred times. Who needs to do extra work, and even for free and in the interests of government agencies?

Thanks for the link to SPKR.

You are welcome. Actually, there are those who can give you useful advice if they find the topic interesting to themselves. Because it is their daily work. I can say that Integrum - in general, works closely with SPKR, because it has received and continues to receive a lot of valuable information from practitioners. This allows Integrum to improve its product in the best way - approximately like a master-hacker with special forces consults and runs new products on it.

Respectfully,
Evgeny

 

[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

Thank!!!