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[Суверен]

Hello. I have a question about unfair competition. Our company is an official distributor in the region of one of the largest plants. The fact is that in our region there appeared products of the same factory, but from a different supplier. We know him. But we just can’t understand where he takes the products. The plant does not have the right to sell goods to it, and employees who have been working with us for a long time convince us that officially our so-called a “competitor" cannot and does not receive goods from them. And at this time, the "competitor" sells goods at prices much lower than ours. The question is whether it is possible to establish, where the products are obtained, at what prices. The goal is to take measures (together with the manufacturer) to prevent unfair competition.

 

[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

Hello, Sovereign. What region are you from?

 

[ДНК]

Hello. I have a question about unfair competition. Our company is an official distributor in the region of one of the largest plants. The fact is that in our region there appeared products of the same factory, but from a different supplier. We know him. But we just can’t understand where he takes the products. The plant does not have the right to sell goods to it, and employees who have been working with us for a long time convince us that officially our so-called a “competitor" cannot and does not receive goods from them. And at this time, the "competitor" sells goods at prices much lower than ours. The question is whether it is possible to establish, where the products are obtained, at what prices. The goal is to take measures (together with the manufacturer) to prevent unfair competition.

I worked closely on a similar issue under an agreement with one manufacturer, whose products were successfully copied and delivered from China, several times with the help of OBEP they detained and seized counterfeit goods, but there are difficulties in proving their guilt (and the obligation to prove, as you know, us), he needs to prove the rogue’s direct intention, and for this he needs to hand in a direct complaint about improper behavior when implementing a counterfeit (here we are talking about Article 146 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation) if the counterfeit completely copies both the model and the name (Article 180 of the Criminal Code) then it’s easier to work .... in general, you need to know the features of your product and the features of your region.

 

[Частный детектив Балашиха]

Hello everybody!

Ready to talk. Call, talk.

 

[Частный детектив. Владивосток.]

The product may be purchased by another distributor working in a different region. And the company selling the goods in your region is most likely an affiliate of this distributor. The goal is to force you out of the market with dumping policies. Gather information on your "competitors", and then you will see ... Who is the founder (real), etc., etc., the management, introduce your trading to them ... First of all, information collection!

 

[Суверен]

I am from Ukraine .... Vinnitsa.

 

[ДНК]

Hello. I have a question about unfair competition. Our company is an official distributor in the region of one of the largest plants. The fact is that in our region there appeared products of the same factory, but from a different supplier. We know him. But we just can’t understand where he takes the products. The plant does not have the right to sell goods to it, and employees who have been working with us for a long time convince us that officially our so-called a “competitor" cannot and does not receive goods from them. And at this time, the "competitor" sells goods at prices much lower than ours. The question is whether it is possible to establish, where the products are obtained, at what prices. The goal is to take measures (together with the manufacturer) to prevent unfair competition.

I worked closely on a similar issue under an agreement with one manufacturer, whose products were successfully copied and delivered from China, several times with the help of OBEP they detained and seized counterfeit goods, but there are difficulties in proving their guilt (and the obligation to prove, as you know, us), he needs to prove the rogue’s direct intention, and for this he needs to hand in a direct complaint about improper behavior when implementing a counterfeit (here we are talking about Article 146 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation) if the counterfeit completely copies both the model and the name (Article 180 of the Criminal Code) then it’s easier to work .... in general, you need to know the features of your product and the features of your region.

Another point. it is necessary to conduct a test purchase on your own, (without the police, because they have strict procedural deadlines and you simply won’t fit into them) and conduct an examination in the local chamber of commerce on whether it is counterfeit, if so, that is, a fake Suppose, Chinese is then one scheme for documenting their activities, and if not, then it is theft from the factory and another scheme is needed here.

 

[Детективное агентство ИКС-Инфо.]

The scheme is not complicated.
Knowing the region, there should be no problems.
So, the faster you orient us locally, the faster your problem will be resolved.
Yours faithfully

 

[Суверен]

The product may be purchased by another distributor working in a different region. And the company selling the goods in your region is most likely an affiliate of this distributor. The goal is to force you out of the market with dumping policies. Gather information on your "competitors", and then you will see ... Who is the founder (real), etc., etc., the management, introduce your trading to them ... First of all, information collection!

We also have a suspicion that the goods come from another distributor, but how can a competitor's price be lower than ours? Other directors receive the goods as we do. The plant is not profitable to force us out. We have been working with him for 6 years, sometimes we sell volumes more than this is enough for the plant. The competitor's volume is much lower. It is hardly interesting for the plant. But for us, a whole part of our region (close to a competitor) - went to him (about 15-20% of buyers). The product is bottled water.

 

[Суверен]

Another point. it is necessary to conduct a test purchase on your own, (without the police, because they have strict procedural deadlines and you simply won’t fit into them) and conduct an examination in the local chamber of commerce on whether it is counterfeit, if so, that is, a fake Suppose, Chinese is then one scheme for documenting their activities, and if not, then it is theft from the factory and another scheme is needed here.

We did this on our own (we thought it was an underground fake). The product is from the factory. There is no doubt. There can be no embezzlement from the plant in such volumes.