Please help me understand the difference between agencies

[Anonymous]

Hello. My name is Anna, I live in Moscow. The company in which I work (I can’t name) needed the services of a detective agency. When searching, I came across a difficult moment. Identifying large reputable companies is not difficult. But the services provided are like a carbon copy. Previously, I was only looking for companies that provide common types of services, and I habitually tried to find phrases such as "Our services, unlike ..." or "The basis of our success ..." - but apparently the specifics of the work do not allow detectives to write that way. Then I tried to at least find recommendations and reviews on the Internet — and again deafly (((At the moment I’m trying to choose between Detective Agency LIONS (supposedly working internationally, although it’s not entirely clear what this is expressed and whether it’s worth it overpay), detective agency "ALEX" and detective agency Miss Marple. What is the essence of the matter for obvious reasons, I can’t, but it is about corporate security.

 

[Детективное агентство Симферополь]

Hello, Khu Khu, the language doesn’t turn to address you by Nick, Anna!
Why the initial choice fell on these three agencies is understandable, they are one of the leaders in the race for indexing Yandex and Google, and their sites, respectively, are in search engines quite high, but ...
If you want to be recommended to you by any of the three agencies you represented, then I will not do this personally, although I could, since none of them is a member of our International Detective Association, which you are now contacting.
How would you explain the difference:? ...
Without knowing the essence of your case, you can not give someone to recommend specifically or even yourself! Since the private investigation is a multidisciplinary profession, for example, someone is genuinely looking for people, someone is more a specialist in surveillance, someone in corporate security, etc., etc.
Describe your business, at least without specifics and clarifications, so that we can understand what you really need.
If everything is so confidential, then you can in PM.

 

[Anonymous]

The story is simple, but no less sad. A part (and not a small one) of employees was pumped out to competitors, having stolen part of customers, suppliers and 1 (thank God) development. Own SB until the last was not in the know, because consists of a fire chief (he is also the only fireman) and a grandfather at the checkpoint who notes who is late or left earlier. Now the management is "blowing on the water" - you need to recruit employees, look for supplier customers, and now they do not believe anyone without verification. Our human resources department is trying to solve the problem with at least new employees, but the rest .... in general, for the first time, we need full support of the business (checks of new and old employees, checks of supplier customers, and all that I can I can’t imagine), and further assistance in the formation of our own security service. the task, as I understand it, is big and difficult. But the worst thing is that now I need to not only find a counterparty and agree on favorable conditions, but also justify to the management why this one and not the other. As far as my immediate responsibilities are concerned, I can still do it, but I have never been interested in this area of activity ....

 

[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

Hello Anna. Register on the forum. I invited other colleagues to the discussion.

Sincerely, Matushkin Andrey.

 

[Детективное агентство Симферополь]

Everything is extremely clear! That would be right away!
If many have already run away from you to competitors and have taken development, then .... Respect and respect for the competitor’s SB! Excellent reconnaissance and recruiting agents! Look for "moles", I'm sure they still remained in your team. Counterintelligence flag in hand! It seems to me that it all happened because the management at one time saved on the Security Service. I had a similar situation - the management felt sorry for the money, grandfathers sat on watch and that’s it. At one point, debts from counterparties began to increase, new projects were suddenly first introduced by competitors, etc. Grasped his head. Together with the head of their IP security, I created the entire Security Council from scratch, cleaned up negative employees, including managerial positions, improved technical security, admission of candidates, corruption, corruption, etc. And it all started with the fact that the "toad smothered" on the Security Council. In toga, I nevertheless left them, the payment was meager and they did not agree on an increase. Now I heard there is nothing new, after half a year or a year, the rake on the same can stand ... no need to save on security. This work is interesting!
Verification of existing employees and candidates, a widespread service, possibly analytically, possibly also using a polygraph (lie detector). Clear ranks must be unambiguously! By contractors - information gathering, analytics. SB can and should be created in parallel, and not later! And as for favorable conditions ... Your management already has to pay for the fact that they initially saved for the purpose of profit. What your company needs is worth decent expenses and you don’t have to skimp on it, otherwise it will come out sideways again.

Choose a counterparty in this matter as follows: talk with a few selected ones and build on their experience with the audit of the SB, the creation of the SB! - this is the main thing, and all the other checks listed by you, this is the work of the Security Council!

 

[Евгений СБ]

Hello Anna.
Tell me, in which region is your company registered and operating?

 

[Детективное агентство Симферополь]

Eugene, welcome!

Hello. My name is Anna, I live in Moscow.

I do not think that Anna goes to work further than the Moscow region

 

[Виталий Климин]

Hello Anna! I can provide the services you request in the Republic of Bashkortostan if this becomes necessary ....

 

[новичёк-дурачёк]

This is all understandable ... but we do not have employees who can find a traitor, especially since he probably already left ... and when I try to find a company that would do all this, I came across 2 main obstacles:
The 1st level of my knowledge in this area (or rather their lack) does not allow me to choose a company myself.
Chapter 2 requires serious justification. not justification for what the Security Council needs - they now understood this themselves. and justifications why this particular company will work with us. and, as I understand it, these people will have fairly wide access to all our affairs. therefore, it should be a well-known large company, so that it would be more expensive to lose their face than to sell us permanently. and yet for this it is necessary that in the justification everything be painted and chewed from and to, so that there is no self-conceit that this particular company is needed, and no other.
by the degree of size, izvestnosti, I got out here are the three that I wrote about. but I also understand very well that several companies that provide the same services or produce the same products necessarily have their own specialization (for example, 2 pasta factories - one has the best horns and the other has spaghetti, sorry for the rudeness and incorrectness of the example, but I think everyone will understand). But in the case of detectives, I just can’t understand - where do they indicate this “trick”? on the site, no, in advertising, no, no recommendations (those on the site do not count, I know how they are done))). and how am I supposed to be?
Services of a private person, please forgive me, dear Denis, I do not consider, as see paragraph 1. I understand that you are probably a very good professional, but it is unlikely that the management of our company will invite you.

 

[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

Let's wait for other colleagues.