How and why historians lie. Nikolai Svanidze.

[Детективное агентство Тула]

Maybe we will not dump the forum into politics and turn it into a manifestation of protest? AND? And discussing purely professional issues?
I am not happy with all this. And this is very sad.
ПЫ, СЫ I've been thinking about what one of my colleagues will take and go crazy, ah (I’m excluding the author now), and will start to drive philosophy to the forum. And the others will clap their hands too?

I'm full of attention, Robert!
Start discussing purely professional issues!

 

[Юридическая Компания Лидер]

Thank.

 

[Игорь Эдуардович]

Maybe we will not dump the forum into politics and turn it into a manifestation of protest? AND? And discussing purely professional issues?
I am not happy with all this. And this is very sad.
ПЫ, СЫ I've been thinking about what one of my colleagues will take and go crazy, ah (I’m excluding the author now), and will start to drive philosophy to the forum. And the others will clap their hands too?

I am personally interested !!! The citizen’s attitude to the history of his country and the metamorphosis that is happening to him. And what is your mania for mental disorders, Robert? I noticed that you raise this topic in your various posts.

 

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Maybe we will not dump the forum into politics and turn it into a manifestation of protest? AND? And discussing purely professional issues?
I am not happy with all this. And this is very sad.
ПЫ, СЫ I've been thinking about what one of my colleagues will take and go crazy, ah (I’m excluding the author now), and will start to drive philosophy to the forum. And the others will clap their hands too?

I am personally interested !!! The citizen’s attitude to the history of his country and the metamorphosis that is happening to him. And what is your mania for mental disorders, Robert? I noticed that you raise this topic in your various posts.

By virtue of my work, I sat in the archives and know that history does not depend on its interpreters. This is chewing bubble gum. No need to chew, disgusting.
To become like peddlers of rumors and discuss them does not honor people involved in the detective profession.
And my attitude to the history of "my country" has nothing to do with this topic.

 

[Детективное агентство Тула]

This is chewing bubble gum. No need to chew, disgusting.

Phew, what a nasty thing ...: oops:
When, finally, will we begin to discuss our purely professional problems?

 

[Детективное агентство. Мангуст. Уфа.]

Returning to Svanidze. Although I was brought up during the time of socialism in the spirit of internationalism, but still ... According to the information I have, Svanidze is a Jew in the worst sense of the word. In the turbulent 90s, he traveled to Israel, received their citizenship, returned to Russia, systematically according to the plan, works for the collapse of Russia as a state (the USSR has already collapsed) ...

 

[Игорь Эдуардович]

Robert wrote: " By virtue of my work, I sat in the archives and know that history does not depend on its interpreters. This is chewing bubble gum. No need to chew, disgusting.
To become like peddlers of rumors and discuss them does not honor people involved in the detective profession.
And my attitude to the history of "my country" is not related to this topic "
Of course, Robert .. Your attitude, my attitude to history is only our business with you. But the characters you write about are media people who broadcast from federal channels, form public opinion and will probably write history books for your children or grandchildren. Therefore, it is necessary to study these people and their “evolution”.
History depends on the interpreters, the main thing is which niche and post they occupy. Example. The Germans decided in the Russian Academy of Sciences in the 18th century that Russia went from the Scandinavian Germans (for Catherine 2), and now in official history. In vain Lomonosov, Tatishchev, Gideonov brilliantly refuted this theory. Then the Romanovs (Germans supported by origin) Then a bunch of court historians defended their scientific work, got academic degrees and started talking. Now this question is a "sacred cow" and the arguments of historians, archaeologists are simply unnoticed. So if they will steer history such historians, then after 100 years, teach that Hitler was defending himself, and the USSR unleashed World War 2.

 

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Well, let's discuss Gumilyov’s, his passionarity: D Ah, leave, please. Do we have a few problems here on the forum? There is nothing to discuss, there are historical forums for this. It would be better if information search methods on the Internet were discussed, what special programs or something else. There, how to look for people. ..... about counterfeit, there, few people know: D
I also somehow understand if industrial espionage or business intelligence. And then we’ll slide down to the discussion of cartoons about the ice age and we will display pictures of our families here. And for this there is a Hydepark, classmates, contact, etc.
In general, there is nothing here .......
Or have all work topics been exhausted?

 

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But I have one question. Colleagues, are you really watching a telly? : D

 

[Игорь Эдуардович]

The officer must understand all issues, dance, play music, understand literature .. etc. : D Personally, I watch TV, read newspapers and magazines, watch the Internet, i.e. I “take off” information wherever possible. I analyze it later. This does not mean that any information is true, but you can work from the opposite ... And even “gossiping” - as you noted, you need to get valuable information. In each “gossip” is a rational kernel, the main thing is to be able to analyze: - “from the general to the particular”, “from the inverse to the true” - the dialectic of the investigation. Any practicing opera knows this. And in order to draw the correct conclusions, information must be obtained from many different independent sources.
Regarding the search methods and other specific issues, there are other sections for this, where they are discussed .....
ps I respect Gumilev, I read. I do not agree with all the questions, but the work is interesting.