The difference in KR and detective work

[Детективное агентство Москва.]

Andrei, why do we need to pull everything up under criminal and civil cases? The customer sets the task, the Kyrgyz Republic analyzes it, decides what kind of info he needs, collects and analyzes it and gives the customer a report with recommendations. What should be legalized in this scheme? From my experience I’ll say: To me, a law firm working in the field of intellectual property protection sets the task of collecting information on company A. I collect it and provide a report, the customer, based on my report, draws conclusions and decides to file an official claim of company A. Company A, having received a claim, curtailes its illegal activities. There are no cases, neither criminal nor civil. I did my job and got paid for it. Where is the violation of the law? I am a legal entity operating within the legal framework.

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

Andrei, why do we need to pull everything up under criminal and civil cases? The customer sets the task, the Kyrgyz Republic analyzes it, decides what kind of info he needs, collects and analyzes it and gives the customer a report with recommendations. What should be legalized in this scheme? From my experience I’ll say: To me, a law firm working in the field of intellectual property protection sets the task of collecting information on company A. I collect it and provide a report, the customer, based on my report, draws conclusions and decides to file an official claim of company A. Company A, having received a claim, curtailes its illegal activities. There are no cases, neither criminal nor civil. I did my job and got paid for it. Where is the violation of the law? I am a legal entity operating within the legal framework.

I agree

 

[JR Security Consulting Group]

Andrei, why do we need to pull everything up under criminal and civil cases? The customer sets the task, the Kyrgyz Republic analyzes it, decides what kind of info he needs, collects and analyzes it and gives the customer a report with recommendations. What should be legalized in this scheme? From my experience I’ll say: To me, a law firm working in the field of intellectual property protection sets the task of collecting information on company A. I collect it and provide a report, the customer, based on my report, draws conclusions and decides to file an official claim of company A. Company A, having received a claim, curtailes its illegal activities. There are no cases, neither criminal nor civil. I did my job and got paid for it. Where is the violation of the law? I am a legal entity operating within the legal framework.

Kirill! We have been talking about the same thing over the past week Everything is clear to everyone and so, it seems to me.

 

[Андрей Захаров]

By the way, no one pulls up this topic under any criminal or civil cases ... I just wanted to hear the answer to the directly posed question (regarding other less expensive ways of legalization, without involving other people) ... Although I did not hear the answer ... Well, okay ... If I manage to talk personally with Eugene (which I will be very happy), we’ll talk, discuss ... And so, in writing, so to speak, everything is very troublesome (it takes a lot of time)

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

By the way, no one pulls up this topic under any criminal or civil cases ... I just wanted to hear the answer to the directly posed question (regarding other less expensive ways of legalization, without involving other people) ... Although I did not hear the answer ...

In my opinion, we have already discussed this with you. I asked you for examples from the business, in which, in your opinion, only a detective can handle. You refused to give them. Well OK, just don’t have to complain about everything that happened next. Provide - consider.

I can’t recall offhand examples of the need for “legalization” in criminal or civil matters. We really collect information from open sources and I don’t know why the detective is so good in this case, compared with an ordinary citizen. And you do not tell.

 

[Андрей Захаров]

Again, controversy ... As for the examples ... So I didn’t say in my post “that there are other (apart from the ones I have indicated) ways of legalizing information ...” So I wanted to hear about these “ways” .... Of course, you can go along the path indicated by Cyril ... However, there is also one thing here ... I encountered in practice ... There are some customers, so to speak, who may not be satisfied with just a written report, set forth by the contractor in any form ... (although it all depends on the level of trust between the customer and the contractor). Give them the "invoice" ... Moreover, documented ... (as an annex to the report). And preferably obtained by legal means ... And it is still not known how this customer will use it ... And in this case, everything should be legal ... Including the processing of the information received ... And this "processing" -naturally within the framework of the Law, can officially carry out only a licensed BH ... So to speak, carry out the "legalization" of this information ... .

 

[Бедеров Игорь Сергеевич]

Evgeny Leonidovich, here is an example ...

Suppose you have collected data about the unseemly activity of a counterparty. The task of your customer is to apply the collected materials to appeal to the court.

How can he use your materials as evidence?
If so, what property should the materials themselves be?
If this is not possible, in what form would you transmit the information to the customer?

I understand that the Kyrgyz Republic is the achievement of a competitive advantage, but this advantage can also be achieved by contacting state bodies on certain facts. How is this possible?

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

Evgeny Leonidovich, here is an example ...

Suppose you have collected data about the unseemly activity of a counterparty. The task of your customer is to apply the collected materials to appeal to the court.

How can he use your materials as evidence?
If so, what property should the materials themselves be?
If this is not possible, in what form would you transmit the information to the customer?

I understand that the Kyrgyz Republic is the achievement of a competitive advantage, but this advantage can also be achieved by contacting state bodies on certain facts. How is this possible?

Publication in the media and further - a statement to law enforcement is a solution to this problem?

 

[Бедеров Игорь Сергеевич]

Those. from your practice ... posting material (in which, by the way, form) will not fall under the law on personal data and constitute an invasion of privacy. The task is to avoid a counterclaim.

 

[Андрей Захаров]

Well, it seems that when applying to law enforcement agencies, the question immediately arises as to why such information came from ... how they were obtained, the rights of any persons (from practice) were not violated during their extraction ... And the same with the media the most ...