The difference in KR and detective work

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

Well, it seems that when applying to law enforcement agencies, the question immediately arises as to why such information came from ... how they were obtained, the rights of any persons (from practice) were not violated during their extraction ... And the same with the media the most ...

It is not the same with the media. Firstly, the media may simply not disclose the sources. Secondly, for example, this option is possible: "A review of the blogosphere on the issue." In this case, the media accumulates information from blogs (including anonymous ones), and publishes in this form. It seems to me that the reason is sufficient to begin a "post factum" audit.

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

Those. from your practice ... posting material (in which, by the way, form) will not fall under the law on personal data and constitute an invasion of privacy. The task is to avoid a counterclaim.

And the Law, in my opinion, directly says that in the interests of protecting this very public life, facts about officials can be published. This was separately noted by the representative of the State Duma recently. or, for example, reports of unlawful acts - are they an invasion of personal life?
It is clear that there is no need to publish pictures from the bedroom of the rural teacher. But rural teachers, as a rule, do not arouse media interest. But, of course, it is necessary to adapt these general formulas to specific cases. Together with lawyers, for example.

 

[Бедеров Игорь Сергеевич]

I’ll try to formulate it differently. Remember, I sent you an example of collecting information, if I wanted to convey it to the appropriate authority, I would have to contact the CSS (roughly). How can I formulate a source of information for them and how can I, in general, formulate a reason for contacting them?

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

I’ll try to formulate it differently. Remember, I sent you an example of collecting information, if I wanted to convey it to the appropriate authority, I would have to contact the CSS (roughly). How can I formulate a source of information for them and how can I, in general, formulate a reason for contacting them?

If it’s about that case, then as an option:

1. Source - Google and Yandex, open Internet search engines.
2. The reason for the initial study of the issue is an attempt to make sure that everything is normal in their department, because they definitely have something to protect. And against their background, to understand how “leaky” simpler sites are. those. an attempt to verify, and make sure that they are truly a customer.
3. The reason for the further search is a shocking discovery that they are not standard, to put it mildly, and a hypothesis test: is there a situation here that requires you, as a citizen of the Russian Federation, to take measures to close a potentially dangerous hole.
4. The reason for the termination of the search is the reluctance that the results found even potentially fall into the hands of intruders (for example, during a computer failure)
5. The reason for contacting the CSS is an appeal to a structure, which alone can plug a hole (by establishing, including with your help, or not installing) the degree of its depth. Recommendations you, as I understand it. give ready.

I think I described what, most likely, actually is.

And appeals to the FSB - which I spoke about in the example, may also be what it really is: “I have no confidence that everything is correct, but there is a contract that I am fulfilling. I don’t know, I can’t I don’t want to know if it is there or not, but see for yourself - and give the go-ahead for the transfer of information to the counterparty. " Of course. worse than not meddling in history, but much better than if they themselves come later with questions about this.

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

According to information received from the Internet, there are changes to the Law on Personal Data. This is not a violation - to take data from the Internet. At the end of the material on deanonymizing an aggressive boor, I gave a link to the article.

 

[Бедеров Игорь Сергеевич]

Thank.

 

[Андрей Захаров]

I’ll try to formulate it differently. Remember, I sent you an example of collecting information, if I wanted to convey it to the appropriate authority, I would have to contact the CSS (roughly). How can I formulate a source of information for them and how can I, in general, formulate a reason for contacting them?

If it’s about that case, then as an option:

1. Source - Google and Yandex, open Internet search engines.
2. The reason for the initial study of the issue is an attempt to make sure that everything is normal in their department, because they definitely have something to protect. And against their background, to understand how “leaky” simpler sites are. those. an attempt to verify, and make sure that they are truly a customer.
3. The reason for the further search is a shocking discovery that they are not standard, to put it mildly, and a hypothesis test: is there a situation here that requires you, as a citizen of the Russian Federation, to take measures to close a potentially dangerous hole.
4. The reason for the termination of the search is the reluctance that the results found even potentially fall into the hands of intruders (for example, during a computer failure)
5. The reason for contacting the CSS is an appeal to a structure, which alone can plug a hole (by establishing, including with your help, or not installing) the degree of its depth. Recommendations you, as I understand it. give ready.

I think I described what, most likely, actually is.

And appeals to the FSB - which I spoke about in the example, may also be what it really is: “I have no confidence that everything is correct, but there is a contract that I am fulfilling. I don’t know, I can’t I don’t want to know if it is there or not, but see for yourself - and give the go-ahead for the transfer of information to the counterparty. " Of course. worse than not meddling in history, but much better than if they themselves come later with questions about this.

Sorry that I “got into” the conversation ... However, in this case, you need to keep in mind the fact that turning to any law enforcement structure, as well as to the structure of the special services with similar "questions" and in this way, you need to have more with these structures or less trusting relationships ... Otherwise, everything will turn out exactly the opposite ... Perhaps it will be-more expensive for yourself ...

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

Sorry that I “got into” the conversation ... However, in this case, you need to keep in mind the fact that turning to any law enforcement structure, as well as to the structure of the special services with similar "questions" and in this way, you need to have more with these structures or less trusting relationships ... Otherwise, everything will turn out exactly the opposite ... Perhaps it will be-more expensive for yourself ...

That is yes. It is necessary to take into account the reaction of law enforcement agencies to treatment in a real, rather than ideal, situation. True, in a number of cases there are also solutions, but this does not negate the validity of the principle itself: “take into account the realities”.