رواية بوليسية. المباحث الخاصة. أوكرانيا.

[НСК-СБ]

I also agree with my previous colleagues - you need to “keep an eye on the journalists” and keep them close to yourself! They need sensations and more “SPECIAL VIEWS”! They can very well turn everything the other way!
For some reason, I was also invited to round tables and discussions about detective stories, they tried to interview by phone (rather by appointment) - but I do not need advertising, we will find customers ourselves!

 

[Частный детектив. Тайный советник. Омск.]

Igor Help, Respect to you for your efforts !!!!
If you suffer for a long time, something will work out !!! And under the lying stone the water will not run. About everything else, and in particular how you behave with magazines, you yourself know everything

 

[Детективное агентство. Украина. Харьков. Львов.]

There was a telephone conversation with the section editor. In addition to positive emotions and a mutual desire to cooperate in the future, nothing has been received. And for myself I made it one more time — even if I overwhelm my emotions — I need to be restrained (it's about my “Zadolbali!” (About the illegality of the NPV in Ukraine), which got into the article because of my restraint) ....

Now look here - https://karmazin.org.ua/2011/10/20/pochemu-v-ukraine-procvetaet-nezakonnyj-chastnyj-sysk/

 

[Детективное агентство. Украина. Харьков. Львов.]

Concerning the article "Detective novel". Detective Agency "ONE"
From: Alisa Yurchenko <alissa@vd.ua>
To: odin-detective@rambler.ru
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 09:38:12 +0300

Dear Sergey Vladimirovich! We are attentive to the feedback of our readers, we have studied your letter in detail and are ready to report the following.



Journalists have long realized that reading articles without distorting the meaning of what is said in them is a great art, which, fortunately, is well-mastered by most readers. Alas, except for those referred to in the text. But they, we admit sincerely, are capable of surprisingly correctly understanding all other materials in which they are NOT discussed.



In the article “Power of Money” in the “Special Vision” section, the editor of the “Special Vision” section Alisa Yurchenko and the editorial staff journalist who works in this section, Anna Kibenok, quoted the forum discussion on the website of the International Association of Detectives with a careful attitude to the information there. (Everything that was on the quoted page of the forum during the preparation of the material, we recorded in the form of screenshots in order to avoid possible misunderstandings). We dare to assure you that the authors did not twist the information, but merely copied what was said, quoted and transferred to the text.

The article did not state that "Ukrainian detective agencies work exclusively illegally and strive to maintain this situation." At the very beginning, we emphasized: “ACTIVITY OF PRIVATE DETECTIVES IN UKRAINE IS NOT PROHIBITED” (it is forbidden to use certain methods of collecting information). You will also find from the first lines information that some representatives of detective agencies DEMANDED TO ACCEPT A LAW ON DETECTIVE AGENCIES recently, and therefore we have made it clear that not all detectives seek to maintain this situation.

If you carefully read the material and two interviews for it, you can understand that:

1) The article does not state that detective agencies are not registered and do not pay taxes - on the contrary, we emphasized that they are just registered, but they do not always indicate detective in the form of activity. It is logical that registered companies must pay taxes. Therefore, the article did not discuss tax evasion at all, the authors did not set a goal, in principle, to investigate this issue. But to say that “Ukrainian detective agencies work EXCLUSIVELY in the legal field” we would not. We have notes on which your colleagues tell you that they use prohibited methods of collecting information, in fact, they conduct an ODS. We quoted them without a surname so as not to create problems for people who were sincere with us. But to deceive about the exceptional legitimacy of the work of the detective business (as well as any other) we consider incorrect.

2) You state that “These agencies are LOBBY LOBBYING THE ADOPTION OF THE ADEQUATE LAW“ On Private Detective Activity ”. Lobbying is an action. Those. you need to develop your legislative proposals, meet with people's deputies, prove that these proposals are needed, and demand the adoption of an adequate law (from deputies, speaking in the media). The deputies we interviewed, who initiated the bills on detective activity, claim that representatives of detective agencies did not go to them, did not offer their help, did not demand anything from them. Then what LOBBYING are you talking about?

In addition, it clearly does not follow from some quotes in the discussion on the forum that the writer is against a specific bill, but at the same time supports some alternative one. For example, this quote: “Alexander, why should this law be legalized ?! What will this give on the territory of Ukraine - restrictions, total control, reporting, etc. ... well, why such an initiative is needed ... ". In it, the author says that as a result of the adoption of the law, additional difficulties will appear - “restrictions, total control, reporting, etc.”, and does not mention a word about any alternative bill. Well, the rhetorical question: can an alternative bill, if it is competent, not create the same restrictions, control, reporting? ..



Having studied in detail all the versions of the salary filed by the deputies for 10 years, we were convinced that they are only a slightly modified version of the Russian law with a lot of confusion, double-digit wording and holes. But why did the detective agencies, suddenly after the release of the material, vigorously declare that they were opposed to an inadequate law, and not a law in principle, have not yet proposed this ADEQUATE option? On this basis, we came to the conclusion that the detective agencies “did not find an incentive to lobby for the adoption of a profile law”. This is the main conclusion of the article - MOST OF THE PARTICIPANTS OF THE MARKET are INACTIVE (because you can work like that, because registration of a legal entity is legal in itself, because there will be some restrictions, etc.). It just so happened that this inaction is backed up by some resistance from the Ministry of Internal Affairs, which has its own reasons for this.



3) The statements of the MOD members used by the authors in the article are quoted in accordance with what was said on the basis of the key principles of citation in journalism: the essence of what was said is preserved, possible grammatical, stylistic or spelling errors, if any, were corrected, profanity, if used , deleted (taking care of our readers, we do not overload them with unnecessary information: if an official expresses one thought for three hours, this does not mean that a three-hour statement should be quoted in the text, so we do not allow quoting the entire discussion on the forum (especially since indicated where to find the full version) WITHOUT DISTORTION OF THE ESSENCE OF QUOTATION).



We are also of the opinion that Ukraine needs private detective work, that detectives must collect information legally, and the press must work efficiently. The editors make high demands on journalists and the quality of their texts. A few words about the principles of work of the publication and the “Special Look” section in which this material is placed. The text should have an unusual angle (analytical, rather than news journalism), which other publications have not previously raised. The title of the column “SPECIAL VISION” obliges to this. Those. we already emphasize in the title of the section that we express our opinion on any phenomenon, supported by FACTS and quotes from specialists (by them we mean market participants, representatives of market regulatory bodies, lawyers, as well as analysts specializing in this topic). All materials in editorial headings, including "Special Look", initiated exclusively by journalists and editors of the publication. The assumption expressed on the forum that the material is custom-made does not correspond to reality. Administrative responsibility is provided for defamation.



The all-Ukrainian weekly Power of Money is one of the three leading business publications in Ukraine. The circulation of one issue is 60 thousand copies.



Respectfully,

Alisa Yurchenko,

Special Look section editor

All-Ukrainian weekly "Power of Money"

044-502-02-23

alissa@vd.ua

 

[Частный детектив Киев.]

There was a telephone conversation with the section editor. In addition to positive emotions and a mutual desire to cooperate in the future, nothing has been received. And for myself I made it one more time — even if I overwhelm my emotions — I need to be restrained (it's about my “Zadolbali!” (About the illegality of the NPV in Ukraine), which got into the article because of my restraint) ....

Now look here - https://karmazin.org.ua/2011/10/20/pochemu-v-ukraine-procvetaet-nezakonnyj-chastnyj-sysk/

Beautiful, you can’t say anything ..: shock:: shock:

 

[Игорь Коракс]

There was a telephone conversation with the section editor. In addition to positive emotions and a mutual desire to cooperate in the future, nothing has been received. And for myself I made it one more time — even if I overwhelm my emotions — I need to be restrained (it's about my “Zadolbali!” (About the illegality of the NPV in Ukraine), which got into the article because of my restraint) ....

Now look here - https://karmazin.org.ua/2011/10/20/pochemu-v-ukraine-procvetaet-nezakonnyj-chastnyj-sysk/

All the same, no matter how beautifully the respected editors did not answer our letters. And they conveyed their special views as they wanted, and the resonance is growing.
We are here, Igor Nikolaevich, we are working on a good project, but we ended up as opponents in the end, it's a shame, well, we’ll survive nothing ....

 

[Детективное агентство Москва.]

Igor, unfortunately, here is their attitude to cooperate constructively. Practically in this answer, they say that they don’t care what those people they interviewed and those whose thoughts from the forum they took, but darker, mean (Everything that was on the quoted page of the forum during the preparation of the material, we recorded in the form of screenshots in order to avoid possible misunderstandings), but what was on the previous pages is not taken into account? That is, they are preparing in advance for the fact that there may be a conflict with the people whom they mention in the article.
We all need to be careful when dealing with such a writing fraternity.

 

[Детективное агентство. Украина. Харьков. Львов.]

Now look at this - https://detective-agency.org.ua/forum/po ... x-agenstv /

 

[Частный детектив Киев.]

Now look at this - https://detective-agency.org.ua/forum/po ... x-agenstv /

Sergey, do you know the creators of this resource? Somewhere already on the forum flashed https://detective-agency.org.ua in a negative context ..
Did you give your coordinates there yourself or did they take them yourself?

 

[Саратов-Алиби]

I also agree with my previous colleagues - you need to “keep an eye on the journalists” and keep them close to yourself! They need sensations and more “SPECIAL VIEWS”! They can very well turn everything the other way!
For some reason, I was also invited to round tables and discussions about detective stories, they tried to interview by phone (rather by appointment) - but I do not need advertising, we will find customers ourselves!

Andrei completely agree.