Theme for discussion ...

[Андрей Захаров]

That is, the state has a front of work to uncover "grouse", and there are a bunch of detectives loafers. And they don’t do a damn thing! So give them rights, determine their obligations under the law, finance their work. Get the result and increase the percentage of crime detection !!!! We need a law that gives rights and obliges to be responsible for the state. Then cowards, lazy people and amateurs will quickly leave, and some will work specifically. And everything will fall into place

But isn’t it easier to just make state blowing-up law enforcement officers work more efficiently to force it does not mean to punish and order ... you can just teach how to work ... and in fact, rather than on paper, engage in the selection of good personnel. ... something like this ... everyone should do their own thing simply .... and the detectives are not loafers ... at least the majority ... just BH should do their own thing, and not replace the law enforcement agencies that you can just provide assistance ... if necessary of course ....

 

[Роберт]

Not. We proceed from the legislation that liberal lawyers imposed on us, who do not give a damn about the state of our society. So we play according to the rules invented by us! We discuss SRO. It is necessary to change its position in the legislation of Russia, and not be fooled by by-laws. It's disgusting. Change the whole cdd block !!!

 

[Роберт]

Type. Let's stop and think. We will not be rams on the slaughter.

 

[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

Any objection?
I plan in the near future when articles are indexed on the site to post this topic in private access from private, as well as these articles to post on Mr. Galochkin’s site.

 

[Роберт]

Yes, and more. I don’t understand at all that a detective is a small businessman paying taxes! A detective must be a state subsidized person, but at the same time he must be obliged to the state and accountable in the work to minimize crime, plus there should be legislation that provides benefits for good results in the fight against crime. Now the law on cdd parody and subtle mockery of the activities of detectives.

 

[Группа К]

Everything is simple. I made a simple analysis of the messages of those detectives who, by now, have already managed to express their opinion on this crucial topic. Since in our discussion we were talking not only about the feasibility of creating SROs, but also about introducing detective standards, I summarized the findings in two columns “SRO” and “Standards”.

In the end, this is what happens.
16 detectives expressed their opinion.
Table
№№ / Detective / SRO / Standards / License / Year
1) Andrey Zakharov / Against / Against
2) Vitaliy Klimin / Against / Against
3) Alexander Kr. / Against / For / 3392/2003
4) Kolomyts Alexander / Against / Against
5) Budaev & Partners / Cons / Cons
6) Robert Yakimov / Cons / Cons
8) STALKER / Cons / Cons
9) Leipus Dmitry / Against / Against
10) Alexander Zaparenko / Against / Against
11) Yuri Plotnikov / Against / Against
12) Sergey Nechaev / Against / Against
13) Vladimir Sokolov / Against / Against
15) Alexey Shcherbenev / Against / Against
16) Lyubimenko Sergey / For / For

Why did I do this?
In his message, Detective Sergey Lyubimenko referred to the support of private investigators, but did not name them. If in their future speeches the initiators of the SRO will continue to refer to the opinion of unknown detectives who support them, then we (acting detectives MOD, ARD + independent detectives), for our part, will be able to reasonably express the opposite point of view.

Respectfully,

 

[Роберт]

I just remember my student days. A freelance police officer, a member of the DND and OKOD (Komsomol operational squad of vigilantes), having the certificates, had the right to detain the perpetrators of the offenses, deliver them to the police, inspect, demand written explanations from the offenders, write the explanations addressed to the head of the territorial police station. Attacking a combatant or resistance was equated with resistance to a regular police officer. Well?! Then society fought crime, and now ?!

 

[Группа К]

Wrong. Not 16, but 14 detectives. Sorry if one of the Russian colleagues did not take into account

 

[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

Everything is simple. I made a simple analysis of the messages of those detectives who, by now, have already managed to express their opinion on this crucial topic. Since in our discussion we were talking not only about the feasibility of creating SROs, but also about introducing detective standards, I summarized the findings in two columns “SRO” and “Standards”.

In the end, this is what happens.
16 detectives expressed their opinion.
Table
№№ / Detective / SRO / Standards / License / Year
1) Andrey Zakharov / Against / Against
2) Vitaliy Klimin / Against / Against
3) Alexander Kr. / Against / For / 3392/2003
4) Kolomyts Alexander / Against / Against
5) Budaev & Partners / Cons / Cons
6) Robert Yakimov / Cons / Cons
8) STALKER / Cons / Cons
9) Leipus Dmitry / Against / Against
10) Alexander Zaparenko / Against / Against
11) Yuri Plotnikov / Against / Against
12) Sergey Nechaev / Against / Against
13) Vladimir Sokolov / Against / Against
15) Alexey Shcherbenev / Against / Against
16) Lyubimenko Sergey / For / For

Why did I do this?
In his message, Detective Sergey Lyubimenko referred to the support of private investigators, but did not name them. If in their future speeches the initiators of the SRO will continue to refer to the opinion of unknown detectives who support them, then we (acting detectives MOD, ARD + independent detectives), for our part, will be able to reasonably express the opposite point of view.

Respectfully,

Strongly support !!!

 

[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

I will say more.
I plan to raise the issue of an absentee conference in the near future; the Charter allows this.
At which Full members of the Association will express their opinion on SRO.
In June, the ARD conference, I admit that I will come to them, no, so we will still make a general “memorandum”, which will be sent to the main participants of this event.