Search for information about a person

[Андрей Захаров]

Dear Andrey Valerievich!
With my answer to A. Naumov, I did not investigate what is prohibited to a private detective with a license. This is a separate topic.
I just drew the attention of visitors to the Forum, which is allowed to a private detective .
What A. Naumov writes about, I have not found in the Law.
Maybe I was looking badly.

It seems that the complete list (reflected precisely in the Law) of information that the BH can collect, in principle, cannot exist ... Everything comes from the opposite ....)))) Only in the Law are "generic" signs of such information (for example - information related to the personal life, political and religious convictions of individuals) .... And what kind of information will it be-for example, information about real estate in Russia and abroad and whether it is possible to consider such information related specifically to personal life- the question is evaluative and its assessment, depending on the volume and some other signs ... This is only as an example of the fact that, in principle, it is impossible to reflect everything in the Law ....

 

[Детективное агентство Тула]

This is our difference, Konstantin - a non-practicing detective who has never submitted evidence to court, cannot know how the information is collected by a private investigator, including those characterizing the personality of citizens. Hence the misunderstanding.

Yes, I know, you have been a practicing detective since 1998. You were 26 years old then and a legal education was ahead.

 

[Виталий Климин]

I read everything, but I still didn’t understand the main message of the author of the original article .... although judging by the selected texts, the conclusion suggests itself - Without paper you are .... and you are a man with paper!

 

[Группа К]

No need to repeat nonsense, Alexander, even if you really like them.

I like everything about you, Konstantin

 

[Детективное агентство Тула]

It seems that the complete list (reflected precisely in the Law) of information that the BH can collect, in principle, cannot exist ... Everything comes from the opposite ....)))) Only in the Law are "generic" signs of such information (for example - information related to the personal life, political and religious convictions of individuals) .... And what kind of information will it be-for example, information about real estate in Russia and abroad and whether it is possible to consider such information related specifically to personal life- the question is evaluative and its assessment, depending on the volume and some other signs ... This is only as an example of the fact that, in principle, it is impossible to reflect everything in the Law ....

It's nice, nevertheless, to argue with the pros, dear Andrei Valerievich!
But, Article 3. Kinds security and detective services
(as amended by Federal law of 22.12.2008 N 272-ФЗ)

It is clear that, according to the Law, it is these (listed) services that a private detective can provide.
Other services DO NOT MENTION AT ALL.

 

[Детективное агентство Тула]

I like everything about you, Konstantin

It is this circumstance that alarms me.

 

[Андрей Захаров]

It's nice, nevertheless, to argue with the pros, dear Andrei Valerievich!
But, Article 3. Kinds security and detective services
(as amended by Federal law of 22.12.2008 N 272-ФЗ)

It is clear that, according to the Law, it is these (listed) services that a private detective can provide.
Other services DO NOT MENTION AT ALL.

Konstantin Mikhailovich))) So we don’t argue with each other)))) It’s just that the scope of services provided by the Law may include various information ... For example, what information can be included in the services of "collection of information on civil cases"? Just as an example .... And this volume may include, for example, information on the presence or absence of property of a certain person of any property, his participation in the activities of certain enterprises (as the same founder), etc. .... Thus In this way, we can conclude that the scope of the service may include various information, including information indicated by a respected colleague, which is precisely collected as part of the services provided for by the Law .... The main thing is that this information does not "violate" the prohibitions established by the Law on BH and IOD .... Probably something like that ......))))

 

[Детективное агентство Тула]

Konstantin Mikhailovich))) So we don’t argue with each other)))) It’s just that the scope of services provided by the Law may include various information ... For example, what information can be included in the services of "collection of information on civil cases"? Just as an example .... And this volume may include, for example, information on the presence or absence of property of a certain person of any property, his participation in the activities of certain enterprises (as the same founder), etc. .... Thus In this way, we can conclude that the scope of the service may include various information, including information indicated by a respected colleague, which is precisely collected as part of the services provided for by the Law .... The main thing is that this information does not "violate" the prohibitions established by the Law on BH and IOD .... Probably something like that ......))))

Dear colleague A.Naumov in his post opening this topic wrote:

"... A private detective license is a state-proven experience in providing the necessary services. Will you go for surgery to a private medical clinic that is not licensed? Or maybe send your child to a private school that does not have a license for educational activities?

If you want to receive professional service - contact only professionals.

So, you have selected a detective agency, private detective professionals. What information can you find out about a person?

• his passport and biographical data,
  
  
• criminal record and administrative offenses,
  
  
• passport details,
  
  
• Driving License Information
  
  
• TIN
  
  
• SNILS,
  
  
• official places of work, positions held, salary amounts,
  
  
• Help 2-personal income tax
  
  
• income statement
  
  
• telephone numbers of city and mobile communication,
  
  
• cars and other movable property,
  
  
• real estate in Russia and abroad,
  
  
• information about the pledge or seizure of property,
  
  
• trips around Russia and abroad,
  
  
• travel companions (joint purchase of tickets)
  
  
• data on accounting or treatment in the skin-venereological, neuropsychiatric, narcological dispensaries,
  
  
• settlement, card and savings accounts in banks,
  
  
• information about the death of a person,
  
  
• marriage or divorce information,
  
  
• information about children
  
  
• other necessary information.

Depending on the type of information, there are certain periods for its receipt. It usually takes one to five business days to gather information about a person. Different detectives may have different deadlines.

Want a professional search? Turn to the professionals! ... "

It is stated incorrectly in relation to the Law of the Russian Federation dated 11.03.1992 N 2487-1 (as amended on 03.07.2016) "On private detective and security activities in the Russian Federation"
I believe that in vain he wrote so.

 

[Группа К]

I believe that in vain he wrote so.

Konstantin, on two pages, three practicing detectives try to explain the obvious all morning. But all in vain. Do not find this circumstance strange, surprising, inexplicable, mysterious, strange again?

To moderator
I recommend creating a special section for the sale of teaching aids on the implementation of detective services to colleagues who do not have the right to conduct private detective activities. So, as they do in ASIS, for example. Such a step will avoid future questions from theorists and support practitioners))

 

[Детективное агентство Тула]

Konstantin, on two pages, three practicing detectives try to explain the obvious all morning. But all in vain. Do not find this circumstance strange, surprising, inexplicable, mysterious, strange again?

If you believe that the truth is determined by a vote at the MOD forum, Alexander, then I am not going to convince you.
Having familiarized yourself with your arguments, not only in this topic, I believe that the license for detective activity was issued to you by mistake (misunderstanding).
That happens...