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[Группа К]

I believe that the license for detective activity was issued to you by mistake

If this conclusion came from you, Konstantin, then I am doing everything right

 

[Alex Sim]

In such protracted disputes, I would like to know who has what in the form of a diploma and work experience, so I’ll just say right away that there will be no questions later - I have a law degree, university (in absentia while serving in the Ministry of Defense - 9 years, deep intelligence units) , then transfer from MO to the Ministry of Internal Affairs, work as an investigator for 6 years, work in the association of detective services of the USSR for 1 year, law practice for 6 years. And now, on the basis of my education and practice, I can participate in discussing some points in the work of a private detective and everyone knows what and where I did something and what I am like, or I just was at the Ministry of Internal Affairs and shifted pieces of paper in the personnel department , there is a difference? who has any opinion?

 

[Детектив-Молдова]

About the detective’s methods, it’s impossible to find something worthwhile for several reasons:
Firstly , I do not know that over the past 24 years of the existence of one of the largest detective organizations, at least one scientific methodology has been published ( in the journal of VAK ) Until today, the detective’s arsenal has no elementary, for example, methods for checking criminal records. Conversations, round tables on security, discussions about the need strengthen and expand - More than enough, but there are no real ideas on how to develop a private investigation and find its place in the legal system! What is there to strengthen! when, we, the detectives left to count on the fingers. That is another achievement !!!!! Wrecking and incompetence - that’s a direct explanation!

Alexander, moving away from the analysis of the original article, I want to ask you why you do not share the Methods of your work with us (give an example, at least a couple of descriptions) in order to understand how much you are legally obedient in your work.
Reading your posts, it seems that we are all “former” “ignoramuses”, we work in a stereotyped, clumsy manner, without straining gyrus and breaking the law at every step.
I still can’t say that you are an “Angel” in your work, as I have not read any of your methods on detective actions yet. But if you convince me that all your methods are clean and do not contradict the Law and normative acts, I’m ready to erect a monument to you, of course, in my homeland, so that there is an opportunity for him to “bow down”.
I’ll make a reservation right away that until I get acquainted with your works I will not dare to buy them.
I understand that you are a businessman and thin push a commercial idea on the forum "... I recommend creating a special section for the sale of teaching aids on the implementation of detective services to colleagues," but buying a pig in a poke is not my method.
Just ask no offense and attacks, purely on the topic and in a businesslike way.
Respectfully,

 

[Группа К]

Just ask no offense and attacks, purely on the topic and in a businesslike way.

Nikolai Vasilievich, I bring my position about the "detective - non-spotter"))

1.
If in the country represented by a private investigator the law does not provide for a license, the detective acts within the framework of the law, therefore, colleagues should not have any doubts about his competence.
If in the country the detective represents, the law provides that private detective services are carried out only on the basis of a license, then the license must be. Everything else is fraud. In support of my position I will give a negative example with the detective agency Leader.

2. Private investigation is different from the state in all. In methods, means and purposes. Hence there is no guarantee that the former operative officer of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB, knows the private detective business so that no one - neither the lawyer of the other side, nor the prosecutor or the investigator, nor the court - can tell him that the information was collected illegally or incorrectly. The former investigative work can only be considered as related to a private investigation, which is closest to it in content, but with serious reservations. Most closely our professions come into contact when searching for information and documents, examining external buildings, and also when interviewing witnesses. Our methods are the farthest in such matters as collecting information about the economic activities of companies, inspecting internal premises without the consent of their owner, collecting documents without the consent of their owners, photographing and surveillance.

Despite the obstacles, the main one being a misunderstanding of our place in the modern legal system, there are still detectives who, at the cost of their own time and money, are looking for common ground between private and state investigations.

Personally, I am for the healthy promotion of private investigation in society. There are sites on which practicing detectives (there are few of us left) zealously collect particles of their practices in one bag and publish everything collected for free. For example here Licensed Ch.D. Forum Of Russia

As for the section that I propose to create on the MOD site. You misunderstood me when I offered sell methods. Rather, a proposal was made to sell methods to persons who did not have detective licenses. Moreover, for those detectives who, by law, cannot obtain such a license, it was proposed to transfer the techniques is free .

I regularly bring my contribution to the popularization of private investigation, and also for free. Here is one of my criminal record verification techniques. It is free for anyone interested in general: The methodology for verifying information about the presence (absence) of a criminal record

Respectfully,
AK

 

[Детективное агентство Тула]

Nikolai Vasilievich, I bring my position about the "detective - non-spotter"))

1.
If in the country represented by a private investigator the law does not provide for a license, the detective acts within the framework of the law, therefore, colleagues should not have any doubts about his competence.
If in the country the detective represents, the law provides that private detective services are carried out only on the basis of a license, then the license must be. Everything else is fraud. In support of my position I will give a negative example with the detective agency Leader.


Respectfully,
AK

DA "Leader" (Kostenko A.Yu.), just has a valid (until 2021) license HAS!

 

[Группа К]

DA "Leader" (Kostenko A.Yu.), just has a valid (until 2021) license HAS!

Yes, I agree! the given example is unsuccessful, did not check before writing, although it should have. I apologize...

 

[Детективное агентство Тула]

Nikolai Vasilievich, I bring my position about the "detective - non-spotter"))

2. Private investigation is different from the state in all. In methods, means and purposes.
Respectfully,
AK

I understand and accept such reasoning from a person who has positive experience both in private investigations and in the so-called “state”. There really are only a few.
But, if such statements follow from a person who does not have specialized education in special educational institutions of the "state investigation" and has not worked a day in this profession, then this is ordinary populism, nothing more. Here, look, what special private detectives we are, not at all similar to the state ones, that’s why they are not even a couple to us !
By analogy, I propose to conduct a comparative analysis between medicine: private / public and education: private school and public school. Something I did not hear that they recruited people to their staff, without correspondingly special medical / pedagogical education.

 

[Люков]

The dispute, of course, is interesting - and a harsh law, on the one hand, and - the law turned out to be where you turned, but I think it’s like a detective, like a scout, you can get a bullet instead of information, but you have to earn money to work , so you need to use sociability and reasonable limits

 

[Наумов Александр]

Remember how Filatov’s? "So that people do not talk bad about the tsar in vain - act strictly according to the law! That is, act on the sly!"

Both in the former service as an operative of various levels, and in the detective sphere, one has to walk along a very thin edge: not to break the law, and to do the job as efficiently and on time as possible.

Of course, which is confirmed by our experienced colleagues, any of the information indicated in the initial post can be obtained legally. Depends only on the specific work experience and desire to help.

True, not all methods working with one detective will fit another. Depends on a person. As always.

 

[Демитрий]

Nikolai Vasilievich, I bring my position about the "detective - non-spotter"))

1.
If in the country represented by a private investigator the law does not provide for a license, the detective acts within the framework of the law, therefore, colleagues should not have any doubts about his competence.
If in the country the detective represents, the law provides that private detective services are carried out only on the basis of a license, then the license must be. Everything else is fraud. In support of my position I will give a negative example with the detective agency Leader.

2. Private investigation is different from the state in all. In methods, means and purposes. Hence there is no guarantee that the former operative officer of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB, knows the private detective business so that no one - neither the lawyer of the other side, nor the prosecutor or the investigator, nor the court - can tell him that the information was collected illegally or incorrectly. The former investigative work can only be considered as related to a private investigation, which is closest to it in content, but with serious reservations. Most closely our professions come into contact when searching for information and documents, examining external buildings, and also when interviewing witnesses. Our methods are the farthest in such matters as collecting information about the economic activities of companies, inspecting internal premises without the consent of their owner, collecting documents without the consent of their owners, photographing and surveillance.

Despite the obstacles, the main one being a misunderstanding of our place in the modern legal system, there are still detectives who, at the cost of their own time and money, are looking for common ground between private and state investigations.

Personally, I am for the healthy promotion of private investigation in society. There are sites on which practicing detectives (there are few of us left) zealously collect particles of their practices in one bag and publish everything collected for free. For example here Licensed Ch.D. Forum Of Russia

As for the section that I propose to create on the MOD site. You misunderstood me when I offered sell methods. Rather, a proposal was made to sell methods to persons who did not have detective licenses. Moreover, for those detectives who, by law, cannot obtain such a license, it was proposed to transfer the techniques is free .

I regularly bring my contribution to the popularization of private investigation, and also for free. Here is one of my criminal record verification techniques. It is free for anyone interested in general: The methodology for verifying information about the presence (absence) of a criminal record

Respectfully,
AK

By design, "Methodology ...." reminded me of the administrative regulations for the provision of public services. The work has been done great, everything is correct. But in my opinion, the algorithm for solving the problem of collecting information about the criminal prosecution can be described much easier. In our case, brevity is the sister of talent. With such success, in the near future, our services can be ordered through the MFC!))