Question about Armenia !!!

[Евгений СБ]

My opinion. This is not a report, but a Filkina diploma, worth absolutely nothing. In order to try to keep his name, Armen needs to return to Aziz the full amount received (given the current situation). And also apologize, even under the pretext that he did not calculate his capabilities and relied too much on his Chinese partners.
Otherwise, I would like to bring up for discussion the issue of the further presence of Armen on this site.
Nothing personal.

 

[Андрей Захаров]

It’s good, of course, when a person is “responsible” for his words ... I don’t know exactly, of course, how the law enforcement bodies of China (IOB and MGB) work, but it seems that getting any information from them is problematic ... (with given the fact that they have recently arrested more than 1,000 people involved in NPV for collecting confidential information). And I don’t think that for some 1,500 bucks (given that there are a bunch of lawyers working in this area, etc.) you can get from them any information sufficient to make a decision about the integrity of the partner ... Maybe, of course, I'm wrong ... God forbid, if I'm wrong ...

 

[Азиз]

As promised, I am returning to checking the accuracy of the information in the "report" of Armen. One of the numbers of the fraudulent company, Armen indicated the phone number 02258610290. Without any effort, "google" this phone. Result on this link:

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl ... 6bih% 3D667

(This is a ready-made translation of the Google service from Chinese into Russian)

And now a moment that I did not expect at all! The "Contact Person" indicates Mr. Wang Jun. And who is indicated in your "report" Armen?!? The same Mr. Wang Jun !!!! Do you think your Chinese "partners" Armen did a good job !!!! If you really have those, then put them in the furnace !!!! If you assume that the telephone number indicated by you or I do not know by your Chinese "partners" in the "report" is true, then do you think that the fraudster will display his real name on the Internet? Think yourself. Now tell me, can I trust you or not? And tell me, is your reputation damaged or not? Do I have the right to make a complaint to you or not? Tell me honestly, have I justified my words or not? That's so Armen. If you really have Chinese "partners" (although I don’t believe in it already, and if they are, they are real scammers), why, as a person who respects your reputation and the reputation of your company, did not double-check the information received from them? I unfortunately believed you! By your actions you set up not only yourself, but more than two decent people. Who are you after that? Say it yourself! What is the continuation of the work?!?

After what I found in Google, there is no desire to check the actual address specified in your "report". And then there’s nothing more to check !!! And the fact that you indicated that this group of fraudsters is guarded and accompanied by enhanced security, try Armen without any reason to say similar to any of the authoritative people here, I think some of them will not politely speak out on this score, but simply send you three funny letters.

In conclusion, I would like to believe that you Armen is a decent and honest person, and you just relied on unverified people in China, but you are far from professional in any way, no matter how offensive it sounds, you must be able to accept justified criticism. So your reputation is in your hands. At the expense of my reputation or Vitaly’s reputation, do not worry in the eyes of my colleagues, we have already managed to work and I think we have earned our authority and our place.

 

[Азиз]

Invited Armen.

Andrey, I ask you to once again invite Armen to the discussion. Apparently, he doesn’t need his reputation, as judging by the record the last time he was here at 9:51 pm yesterday, he unsubscribed in the course and left. It seems he is not interested. And if so, then I think the question needs to be closed. We will assume that we donated money in the amount of 1,500 bucks to the endangered organisms rescue fund of the glorious Republic of Armenia and we will notify the Internet community about this. By the way, in Armenia I have good and deeply respected friends, I don’t know if there is a need to introduce Armen to them, on the one hand, it’s not worth it, on the other, I would like to know my heroes by sight. Time will tell.

 

[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

Invited.

 

[Armen Hayrapetyan]

Aziz, why is the client still not getting in touch with me? As I think, he should be most interested in the result. But I only hear the discontent of Aziz and Vitaly. I don’t understand why Aziz can’t wait to receive the final report on the forum that I sent? I wrote yesterday that in order to do the job and get a satisfying result, I need time. I am already beginning to doubt that this is a poorly written script in order to start working with this client ourselves. Apparently he himself needs money to "save the endangered organisms of glorious Tashkent." Aziz, what do your words mean? It seems to me that the honor of the state cannot be interfered with in this matter. Who allowed you to write such words?
As I promised, I will do the job with honor and will soon send a report to the forum. So get ready to officially apologize. I have nothing more to add, and I'm not going to make excuses. The best court is time and colleagues who were able to objectively assess the current situation.

 

[Детектив-Юг]

It’s good, of course, when a person is “responsible” for his words ... I don’t know exactly, of course, how the law enforcement bodies of China (IOB and MGB) work, but it seems that getting any information from them is problematic ... (with given the fact that they have recently arrested more than 1,000 people involved in NPV for collecting confidential information). And I don’t think that for some 1,500 bucks (given that there are a bunch of lawyers working in this area, etc.) you can get from them any information sufficient to make a decision about the integrity of the partner ... Maybe, of course, I'm wrong ... God forbid, if I'm wrong ...

Andrey You are not mistaken, it is not so simple with China.
Firstly, there is the official part of the Chinese living under the laws of China and the second part behind the scenes .....
Even having many acquaintances with a status, Russian-speaking, it is problematic to solve issues, especially with criminal structures.
In China, criminals by law, as a rule, live until noon, all issues are resolved quickly and clearly, at noon .... especially the part that is behind the scenes .... slap and the question is closed, without prejudice to the population ...

 

[Орлан]

I think Aziz was not happy to post all this on the forum, and procrastinate.
No offense, just expressing my opinion.

And to whom is it a joy? In principle, I don’t want to discuss the work of Armen or his personality, I worked with him about which I really regret, and I regret not because of the money spent, but I regret purely because as a result of the “work” of Armen, I am very ashamed in front of the client. Why did I put it here, because it would not be honest on my part if in the future someone from decent people will be as ashamed as I am to look into the client’s eyes.

I wrote to this, that you didn’t raise this topic from a good life.

 

[Азиз]

Aziz, why is the client still not getting in touch with me? As I think, he should be most interested in the result. But I only hear the discontent of Aziz and Vitaly. I don’t understand why Aziz can’t wait to receive the final report on the forum that I sent? I wrote yesterday that in order to do the job and get a satisfying result, I need time. I am already beginning to doubt that this is a poorly written script in order to start working with this client ourselves. Apparently he himself needs money to "save the endangered organisms of glorious Tashkent." Aziz, what do your words mean? It seems to me that the honor of the state cannot be interfered with in this matter. Who allowed you to write such words?
As I promised, I will do the job with honor and will soon send a report to the forum. So get ready to officially apologize. I have nothing more to add, and I'm not going to make excuses. The best court is time and colleagues who were able to objectively assess the current situation.

Armen, what nonsense are you talking about some poorly written script and start working with this client yourself? And whose client is he now? Is it yours? Why would he get in touch with you?!? He doesn’t know you by sight. He doesn’t even know your phone number! What nonsense !!! And where else do you see that I touched the honor of Armenia? And where is the honor in the words "glorious Republic of Armenia" hurt? Armen, sending your "final" report was a real mockery on your part. There is no other name. Not only is bullying, but it is also a lie. The fact that this is a lie I have already substantiated. Armen, nobody needs your extra report. You blundered, be a man to admit it.

It’s good, of course, when a person is “responsible” for his words ... I don’t know exactly, of course, how the law enforcement bodies of China (IOB and MGB) work, but it seems that getting any information from them is problematic ... (with given the fact that they have recently arrested more than 1,000 people involved in NPV for collecting confidential information). And I don’t think that for some 1,500 bucks (given that there are a bunch of lawyers working in this area, etc.) you can get from them any information sufficient to make a decision about the integrity of the partner ... Maybe, of course, I'm wrong ... God forbid, if I'm wrong ...

Andrey You are not mistaken, it is not so simple with China.
Firstly, there is the official part of the Chinese living under the laws of China and the second part behind the scenes .....
Even having many acquaintances with a status, Russian-speaking, it is problematic to solve issues, especially with criminal structures.
In China, criminals by law, as a rule, live until noon, all issues are resolved quickly and clearly, at noon .... especially the part that is behind the scenes .... slap and the question is closed, without prejudice to the population ...

I agree that it is difficult to resolve the issue with China. But gentlemen, this is not about that. The point is that the sending of such a “final” report was regarded as a mockery by Armen. This is what it is all about. If Armen sent his "report" as a preliminary, then there would have been a completely different conversation, although, having checked its reliability, he would still have to put it here. Who wants to get such a "final" report, and even with false information. Who after this is Armen? You can’t call him a detective. After all this, who will need a detailed report and who wants to believe in its reliability. I have no words.

 

[Юридическая Компания Лидер]

I agree that it is difficult to resolve the issue with China. But gentlemen, this is not about that. The point is that the sending of such a “final” report was regarded as a mockery by Armen. This is what it is all about. If Armen sent his "report" as a preliminary, then there would have been a completely different conversation, although, having checked its reliability, he would still have to put it here. Who wants to get such a "final" report, and even with false information. Who after this is Armen? You can’t call him a detective. After all this, who will need a detailed report and who wants to believe in its reliability. I just have no words. [/ Quote]

Colleagues, I believe that now the discussion is not about the difficulties of "working" with China, but about the quality of the work done by Armen. There was an order, Armen took up its implementation, at the moment the "final report" was released. What's next ... The Dragon Boat Festival in China ended on Wednesday (June 12, 2013) - https://ukr-china.com/left/Informatsiya/ ... e_v_kitae /, and an intelligible answer from Armen and partners with There is no China.