The difference in KR and detective work

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

Let me summarize this huge number of letters in several lines:

Yes, let’s do something for a short time. But, like any generalization, yours suffers from failures and inaccuracies. And what's the point of it then?

I will explain.

A detective is a specialist recognized by the legislation of the country with relevant experience, knowledge, relevant to certain parameters, acting in the interests of the customer and the country that issued him the license to conduct detective activities in the framework of the legislation of this country.

OK. Although I have some doubts that the "interests of the country" are really put at the forefront in carrying out the activities of the detective. But God be with him. so be it.

Commercial intelligence officer - This is a citizen of the country in which he lives, to which all the laws and legal acts of this and other countries apply, in which he, as a citizen of his country, carries out his activities, bearing full responsibility for all his actions in accordance with the laws and legal acts of these countries.

Well, in principle, yes - like any other person.

Excuse me, but does the Detective not bear “all responsibility for all his actions in accordance with the laws and legal acts of these countries” for his actions? Or, perhaps, it doesn’t "apply all the laws and legal acts of this and other countries in which he, as a citizen of his country, carries out his activities"?

Even shorter:

A detective is an individual entrepreneur operating within the legal framework.
A commercial intelligence agent is an individual who carries out his activities at his discretion and understanding, at his own risk.

Afraid, in fact, is not necessary. And what about fear in general?

In general, it seems to me that you wanted to say that the detective has a license, but a specialist in the Kyrgyz Republic - no. With this, in principle, no one argues. and it was written above - as a small part of everything else.

But if we talk about the essence of activity, and not about a piece of paper with a seal, then you can’t do without understanding this very essence. "To you with checkers or to go?" - this is from this series.

 

[Бедеров Игорь Сергеевич]

The difference in KR and detective work

Ladies and gentlemen!
Let me summarize this huge number of letters in several lines:

A detective is a specialist recognized by the legislation of the country with relevant experience, knowledge, relevant to certain parameters, acting in the interests of the customer and the country that issued him the license to conduct detective activities in the framework of the legislation of this country.

Commercial intelligence officer - This is a citizen of the country in which he lives, to which all the laws and legal acts of this and other countries apply, in which he, as a citizen of his country, carries out his activities, bearing full responsibility for all his actions in accordance with the laws and legal acts of these countries.

Even shorter:
A detective is an individual entrepreneur operating within the legal framework.
A commercial intelligence agent is an individual who carries out his activities at his discretion and understanding, at his own risk.

Security services then belong to the Kyrgyz Republic, the same analytical and consulting agencies.

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

Security services then belong to the Kyrgyz Republic, the same analytical and consulting agencies.

+1 As well as bookkeeping and garage

 

[JR Security Consulting Group]

Security services then belong to the Kyrgyz Republic, the same analytical and consulting agencies.

+1 As well as bookkeeping and garage

: D: D: D

 

[Детектив-Юг]

Dear Sirs, we all live in legal states and we must comply with laws.
And advertising the work under the black flag is somehow inappropriate.

All those who can be called acting Detectives did not fall out of a commercial shell, but went a long way daily, for many years studying and observing the laws of their countries, rose to high ranks and only after that engaged in Detective work.
And they need pieces of paper with stamps solely in order to work within the legal framework and to do what they love.
(I don’t count, I fell out of a commercial shell, but for many years I was engaged in what this is about)
So these Detectives, unlike businessmen, know what they are doing and practically do what they did before when they wore epaulets.

We can talk a lot about various topics that are outside the legal field, such as this, and discuss possible ways of applying it, but all actions on these topics will sooner or later end after the implementation of real articles in various codes.

Topics are really interesting but exclusively for general development and are interesting not only to businessmen but also to the host side.

 

[Бедеров Игорь Сергеевич]

All those who can be called acting Detectives did not fall out of a commercial shell, but went a long way daily, for many years studying and observing the laws of their countries, rose to high ranks and only after that engaged in Detective work. And they need pieces of paper with stamps solely in order to work within the legal framework and to do what they love.

Oh ... do not tell me about the high ranks ... seen enough .... not an indicator of this. The indicator is the man himself.
The fact that a person was able to build his business is yes - I respect. U sit out pants in the office - already dismiss.

And about the pieces of paper, you want to do business as an IP - detective, lead. I want to lead as a consultant with LLC - I lead. We can do similar things and have remedies for similar people. What problems?

The fact that both I and you can ask a friend Uncle Stepa to ask for a lettering event. Not. I just want us to learn how to do without grandfathers Step))))))

Remember, I said. You can listen to the phone in letters, or you can put all conversations in the engineering menu and give the phone to the unfaithful spouse. The first is offered by detectives (unofficially), the second I say. And where is the understanding of the rule of law. You did, I only advised.

Well, an example with a bad two, take an observation ...

 

[JR Security Consulting Group]

Vitya! Talk about the gray zone, it’s not black There is a law that we obey, no law, so why not work out the topic? We can say that detectives have a much stricter framework than ours, those who are involved in consulting and the Security Council. And all the same, everyone needs information and where to dig it legally, we are told by specialists of this direction.

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

And advertising the work under the black flag is somehow inappropriate.

We can talk a lot about various topics that are outside the legal field, such as this, and discuss possible ways of applying it, but all actions on these topics will sooner or later end after the implementation of real articles in various codes.
Topics are really interesting but exclusively for general development and are interesting not only to businessmen but also to the host side.

Something I do not understand you. Let's be specific, OK?
Please show me what exactly in your topic about competitive intelligence aroused thoughts about some kind of “black flag” and “a topic that is outside the legal field”.

Or do you seriously think that the Law on Detective Activity is the only rule of law, and the Civil Code, Criminal Code, CoAPP and other laws governing life and work are nothing? Please explain more specifically. because, apparently, either you didn’t understand what was being discussed, or I didn’t understand what you mean. Here, let's get it together.

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

Well, since the talk about illegal ...

So these Detectives, unlike businessmen, know what they are doing and practically do what they did before when they wore epaulets.

That is, you want to say that detectives intrude into the personal lives of citizens, secretly monitor their correspondence, conduct searches and wiretap their phones? Can you tell me - on what basis?

Indeed, the observance of laws by those who are in uniform, as far as I know, is not completely identical in terms of the set of actions to the same for those who removed uniforms. You claim that it seems to be identical. Am I missing something and has the law changed? Tell me.

 

[Бедеров Игорь Сергеевич]

That's it, BSM all the time are slipping to do the usual ORM. And others think how they can be adapted to the civilian version!