Competitive intelligence in the Premier League business

[Роберт]

Strange, they taught me just how to make a person come to certain conclusions and find himself in the right place at the right time. Well, everything is equipped there, a matter of technology. By the way, many customers abandon their plans when you explain the prospect to them.
They came up with one idea and with money. They want to do this. You can stupidly take the money and do it. And that’s all.
No, I explain the consequences to them. : D And all their desires fall away. They get up and leave with the money. : D So it was when I explained that it is better not to forge medical documents when entering a prestigious company, because there are good personnel officers and Security Service. So it was when I explained that in certain circumstances, having learned about the surveillance of him (and this is inevitable), the son will generally leave home and will have to restore relations with his parents for years. Well and so on

Well yes, that's right.

Now look, as I said here earlier, that he needs to find out from the client, why he needs what he asks, and they answered me that this is not my business, they say, he needs it - that means it is necessary.

About that and the speech that different people taught for different situations, and then practice fixed it - and personal experience appeared. Which in some ways is good, but in some ways it works like blinders.

Well, colleagues still quarrel with me about this.
Like, so you finally can’t make money.
Yes, they always taught on such a creed: - "Listening to what a person says, he must understand what he thinks!"
And sometimes these are just the opposite things: D

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

Yes, they always taught on such a creed: - "Listening to what a person says, he must understand what he thinks!"
And sometimes these are just the opposite things: D

I totally agree.

Well, colleagues still quarrel with me about this.
Like, so you finally can’t make money.

It’s true that you won’t make money - but for individuals the level of a market clerk is.
But serious people do not need wordless lackeys - because they already have plenty of them. And if their regular wordless lackeys have not solved a problem that needs to be solved, they are looking for someone who can cope with the task. And here they really need advice. Moreover, the advice - such as just the layout of options and their consequences.
You can earn money even at this stage. After all, as a rule, you do not just say "you do not need to do as you originally planned." As a rule, you say: "You need to do this and that." And if you say it right - they are ready to pay you - first for the details, and then, perhaps, for the implementation of your plan.
And the price tag of a large company is obviously very different from the price tag of the storekeeper. One company can pay more than half the fruit market. And working with a large company in terms of complexity, creativity and intellectual content is much more interesting than being an errand for a small shopkeeper.

 

[Роберт]

Ah, balls, balls! : D: D I'm not in vain about the plant said: D

 

[Роберт]

Just yesterday, one of the serious people explained to me (he works according to a line that you understand in one of the largest, or rather, the largest company in the country): - There is a stereotype of your office in which you worked. And no matter what operational combinations you play there, you will still be treated like a swindler, you are the same traffic cop according to the image, only border guard: D
It's a shame, but they are met by clothes ..... Or rather they are not met: D

 

[JR Security Consulting Group]

About that and the speech that different people taught for different situations, and then practice fixed it - and personal experience appeared. Which in some ways is good, but in some ways it works like blinkers. [/ Quote]

Here, and apart from personal experience, which, it seems to us, is worth a lot (by the way, this is largely the case), we do not see anything around this. The so-called comfort zone. Many people are afraid to go out of it, it is actually very difficult, but you need to go out a little and master other, fundamentally opposite things. If you don’t do this and blindness is acquired and many see only what they want to see, a distortion appears and the whole world around remains simply incomprehensible, not needed, for one simple reason ..... I’ve served, I know everything and I can, and you here is young and you tell me about approaches to business, etc. etc. we see all this constantly. And disputes and abuse, this is all the comfort zone of each individual person.

 

[JR Security Consulting Group]

[quote = "Eugene Yushchuk"
It’s true that you won’t make money - but for individuals the level of a market clerk is.
But serious people do not need wordless lackeys - because they already have plenty of them. And if their regular wordless lackeys have not solved a problem that needs to be solved, they are looking for someone who can cope with the task. And here they really need advice. Moreover, the advice - such as just the layout of options and their consequences.
You can earn money even at this stage. After all, as a rule, you do not just say "you do not need to do as you originally planned." As a rule, you say: "You need to do this and that." And if you say it right - they are ready to pay you - first for the details, and then, perhaps, for the implementation of your plan.
And the price tag of a large company is obviously very different from the price tag of the storekeeper. One company can pay more than half the fruit market. And working with a large company in terms of complexity, creativity and intellectual content is much more interesting than being an errand at a small shopkeeper. [/ Quote]

To each his own, who wants to work with a shopkeeper, and who knows how to work with a large holding, there are fundamentally different approaches.

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

Just yesterday, one of the serious people explained to me (he works according to a line that you understand in one of the largest, or rather, the largest company in the country): - There is a stereotype of your office in which you worked. And no matter what operational combinations you play there, you will still be treated like a swindler, you are the same traffic cop according to the image, only border guard: D
It's a shame, but they are met by clothes ..... Or rather they are not met: D

Yet not quite so. Lawyers, for example, are rarely asked which institute they graduated from. judged by the cases won.
Lawyers from operas and lawyers from followers, as a rule, are not subdivided either.
The former military officer (starley) read me law at the institute, who now, in my opinion, has become a successful lawyer.

 

[Ющук Евгений Леонидович]

Here, and apart from personal experience, which, it seems to us, is worth a lot (by the way, this is largely the case), we do not see anything around this. The so-called comfort zone. Many people are afraid to go out of it, it is actually very difficult, but you need to go out a little and master other, fundamentally opposite things. If you don’t do this and blindness is acquired and many see only what they want to see, a distortion appears and the whole world around remains simply incomprehensible, not needed, for one simple reason ..... I’ve served, I know everything and I can, and you here is young and you tell me about approaches to business, etc. etc. we see all this constantly. And disputes and abuse, this is all the comfort zone of each individual person.

I agree. Although reasonable people understand that there are different levels of work and this is normal - and do not conflict on this issue. But not all people are rational in due measure.

To each his own, who wants to work with a shopkeeper, and who knows how to work with a large holding, there are fundamentally different approaches.

And there is. Because in order to work with a large holding at the level of its leader, you need to understand the logic of this leader. And this is a completely different logic than that of a small shopkeeper. True, with the exception of issues related to personal life - there the logic of all is approximately the same, but different limits of acceptable solutions. But that's another story. Although ... this is a possible entry point into the circle of such people.

 

[JR Security Consulting Group]

Here, and apart from personal experience, which, it seems to us, is worth a lot (by the way, this is largely the case), we do not see anything around this. The so-called comfort zone. Many people are afraid to go out of it, it is actually very difficult, but you need to go out a little and master other, fundamentally opposite things. If you don’t do this and blindness is acquired and many see only what they want to see, a distortion appears and the whole world around remains simply incomprehensible, not needed, for one simple reason ..... I’ve served, I know everything and I can, and you here is young and you tell me about approaches to business, etc. etc. we see all this constantly. And disputes and abuse, this is all the comfort zone of each individual person.

I agree. Although reasonable people understand that there are different levels of work and this is normal - and do not conflict on this issue. But not all people are rational in due measure.

To each his own, who wants to work with a shopkeeper, and who knows how to work with a large holding, there are fundamentally different approaches.

And there is. Because in order to work with a large holding at the level of its leader, you need to understand the logic of this leader. And this is a completely different logic than that of a small shopkeeper. True, with the exception of issues related to personal life - there the logic of all is approximately the same, but different limits of acceptable solutions. But that's another story. Although ... this is a possible entry point into the circle of such people.

+1000

 

[Андрей Захаров]

When answering a question about the BH operation, based on the practice (for about 13 years of work) in a percentage of about 60%, orders to verify business partners, including potential competitors (scope of verification (excluding analysis of economic activity), is the same , as declared by the Kyrgyz Republic. About 10% of the collection of information on criminal cases. About 20% of the collection of information on civil cases. For the rest, about the remaining 10% ... Something like this ... And about the relationship of the NPV with the Kyrgyz Republic and the role of BH in the formation of the Kyrgyz Republic, in detail. using a specific texture and analysis, so to speak, in a good dissertation for the degree of candidate of political sciences, Prilukov Mikhail Vitalievich (the text of the thesis is in the appendix) ... Based on the information contained in this scientific work it was the NPV in Russia that was the basis for the creation of the Kyrgyz Republic in Russia ... So it’s a little strange to hear from people engaged in the science that these people actually know nothing about the activities of the black hole ... And the work is prepared to be defended by good a specialist in this industry .... I advise you to get acquainted ... Both theorists and practitioners ... To broaden our horizons, so to speak ... And regarding the practical application of our knowledge and level of training, I think you should not evaluate these indicators by the level of training persons calling themselves employees of some kind of security services and attending round tables, webinars held by the Kyrgyz Republic and at the same time admiring the possibilities of obtaining any information from the information indicated in the cash receipts: lol: It all depends on a particular person ... And this, I think , it’s not disputable ... And as for the need, it’s in our, as BH, services from the representatives of the Kyrgyz Republic, I think there will not be much need, because apparently they are satisfied and their "level" of work to collect information ...