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[udav55]

Hi namesake))) The topic of security at the Forum has long existed ... Look carefully, the SECURITY SERVICES)))) So what about the guards, there ....

Hello namesake.
This is not entirely about the guards, the fact is that the bodyguards fell out of the law "On Private Detective and Security Activities" thanks to the efforts of our valiant lawmakers. And now they work in the shade of gray. Somehow they stuttered about it once, that they had to be pulled out of the shade, or else they would chop the cabbage, and our state would not unfasten it. Not quite to the topic of protection it can be attributed. When I became interested in this topic myself, I saw the difference and differences from the guards. Even for example, the equipment differs from the standard ChOPovskaya. Security structures do not want to invest in it, and the “bigwigs” do not spare money in it and there are specific types of weapons for use at different distances. For example, in the guard at the guard where it is prescribed to have a knife for close range combat gear? Or does his guard have a piece of bread to cut even for dinner? Not all and not always guards carry penknives even for these purposes. And in the equipment of the Bodyguard, he should be. You can also recall such special means of the guard as a baton, it is rubber all the time, and the bodyguard has a rubber stick, it’s rare, but there is a good civilian convenient folding iron “switch” in the outfit for an average distance, and the equipment for finding our things in the form of hidden wiretapping cameras should also be with you.

 

[udav55]

In fact, it can be said that bodyguarding is one separate type of activity, both security and detective, which includes knowledge of these types of activities and legal activity.

 

[Андрей Захаров]

Andrei))) Whatever you call it, PROTECTION is PROTECTION .... So, probably, on this topic, to the appropriate section We are not the state ... private traders ... It's only there, PSB, FSO: lol : It seems that both the OVO guard and the FSO guard .... But the functions and capabilities are different ....

 

[udav55]

I agree, Colleague.
It is necessary to look at that section. Honestly, I didn’t look there myself once. And it is really not worth it for the participants to make departments, and even this is a mess in the country. Where else to add to us

 

[Детективное агентство ОПЦИОН]

Licenses and certificates to private detectives will be issued by the Russian Guard, will regulate the handling of antique and edged weapons of cultural value

Dossier on the draft federal law No. 691842-6 “On Amending Certain Legislative Acts of the Russian Federation” (amended on December 31, 2014 by the Government of the Russian Federation)

11/23/2017 The State Duma in the second reading adopted the draft amendments on private detective and security activities and arms trafficking.
Earlier, the Russian Guard was created on the basis of the internal troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. They will clarify that she is in charge of not only private security, but private detective activities.
Licenses and certificates for private detectives will not be issued by the ATS, but by the Russian Guard or its territorial bodies. Documents previously issued by the ATS will be valid until the end of their term.
The status of a private security guard cannot be obtained if more than 5 years have passed since the issuance of the qualification document. Also, private guards will not be able to become persons registered with the health authorities about a mental illness, alcoholism or drug addiction.
A separate block of amendments relates to ancient (antique) weapons, their copies and replicas, cold steel, which has cultural value.
To purchase such weapons, you need a license for collecting. He will not need to be registered with the Russian Guard and its territorial authority. This also applies to weapons and ammunition, for the acquisition, exhibiting and collecting of which a license is not needed. A list of the latter is proposed to be clarified. Probably, he will replenish with sports and hunting cold bladed weapons.
It will be possible to store civilian weapons that are acquired without a license and (or) whose registration is not required without permission.
A license to collect and exhibit weapons that are purchased without a license and registration is not required is not required.
They will establish restrictions related to the use of ancient (antique) weapons. They will forbid him to shoot, hit a live or other target, give signals, and also use in any other way that creates a threat of its damage or destruction. The same applies to weapons of cultural value. However, an exception will be provided for wearing it and imitating use with historical costumes during historical, cultural or other public events.
Control shooting will be subject not only to civilian, but also to service firearms with a rifled barrel.

 

[Сергей Анатольевич]

Let's live, let's see.

 

[Локтионов Михаил Юрьевич]

Yes, the other day I talked to Galernaya with an informed source and received the same information. The point is not that the Russian Guard wants to control us, but the fact is that the Ministry of Internal Affairs does not crave this and stubbornly refuses. Motivating this by the lack of
necessary staff. This is all unfortunately bureaucratic troubles.
Therefore, it will be a great success if they even adopt a separate law on private detectives, which has already been adopted in almost all the former republics of the USSR.

 

[Виталий Климин]

In general, I believe that if the BH does not have the right to use special equipment, bases of special forces, at least the Address base and the criminal record base, weapons and other possible distributions, for which he should generally receive a license, which she gives him in addition to an individual article in the criminal Code of the Russian Federation ??????

 

[Локтионов Михаил Юрьевич]

You are certainly right, colleague! But when we started back in 88, there was not even the law itself and opened in general in the form of a cooperative. Even gas pistols appeared later and already for all citizens. But all this did not interfere with the work.
We bought equipment (a photo-gun, a Kiev-30 mini-camera (fits in a pack of cigarettes), a phone number identifier, a bug search device, a car and go).
Over the past 30 years, nothing has changed. With the adoption of the law "On the NEXT", detectives "armed almost to the teeth" graciously allowed to have as a special means a gas spray, handcuffs and a rubber club. Then, considering that it was too much, they removed the gas spray and added a protective helmet (yes, like private security guards, like a motorcycle one). Now these are "formidable"
special equipment was canceled altogether.
But the main weapon of a private detective,
Yes, and any opera remains the head. And thank God I hope not to take it from us.
As for criminal liability, I will say this. Any normal opera that has served for at least five years can be immediately given a life sentence, based on the totality of the criminal offenses committed (I’ll omit the details of who is on the topic), not counting a couple of hundred administrative ones. (in this case, the better the operas, the more articles).
Any opera walks on the edge and the detective is similar. Fortunately, in Russia there is a centuries-old game of the state with citizens, this is when the severity of laws is compensated by the non-bindingness of their implementation. (This was written by the wise Russian classics back in the century before last). This alone saves us. I do not want to say that this is normal. Just because of the Russian specifics, we often have laws to say the least
really are weird.
Therefore, in contrast to us, there is still the practice of applying laws. All lawyers know what it is called. In other words, there are articles that were accepted by someone’s foolishness, but thank God (the courts and the prosecutor’s office) are actually not executed.
I will not dwell on the specifics, everything is up to date. As the saying goes, we are not gentlemen by position, although by position we are gentlemen.
Therefore, in our country, a private detective, like operas, is not a profession but a way of life.

 

[Детективное агентство ОПЦИОН]

And so in a hurry, we are watching a change in dates and this is the third reading. I am dropping one paragraph:
Licenses and certificates to private detectives will be issued by the Russian Guard, in addition, they will regulate the handling of antique and edged weapons of cultural value.
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Dossier on the draft federal law No. 691842-6 “On Amending Certain Legislative Acts of the Russian Federation” (amended on December 31, 2014 by the Government of the Russian Federation)

11.24.2017 The State Duma in the third reading adopted amendments on private detective and security activities and arms trafficking.
Earlier, the Russian Guard was created on the basis of the internal troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. They will clarify that she is in charge of not only private security, but private detective activities.
Licenses and certificates for private detectives will not be issued by the ATS, but by the Russian Guard or its territorial bodies. Documents previously issued by the ATS will be valid until the end of their term.