About private detectives.

[частный детектив Хмельницкий]

Re: Private detectives want to be "in law"

OKVED is activity statistics. Then there should be a pointer somewhere - is it possible to deal with it as I want, with a license, with a certain cap, etc.

"The Law of Ukraine" On Information "........ it is so for example that it is possible ......" The Law of Ukraine "On the Protection of Personal Data" (from 01.01.2012) .... this is about that you can’t ..... well, etc ..... And another weak peep from the spot: KVED is a list of the types of economic activity PERMITTED in the state .... And licenses, permits, etc., specify by-laws on different types of permitting system ..... sorry for your own opinion expressed without permission .....

 

[Детективное агентство ИКС-Инфо.]

Re: Private detectives want to be "in law"

There is no law on the Detective - there is no work as a detective, which means engaging in illegal entrepreneurial ... etc.
Alexander K.

There are laws restricting "getting into" the sovereign affairs ...
Law on ARDS, on Information, etc. - it clearly says what to do
DO NOT CLOSE to sovereign people !!!!!
Why ... (sorry) I need some kind of ACT regulating what is possible !!!
Based on your logic, laws are needed on how to walk, how to breathe, how ...
Just - HOW ...
Everyone who wanted the law was embarrassed to say that they need credentials, credentials
etc. etc. ... AND ALL - just for that !!!!
You got the credentials and xiv - you feel better ?? !!
Does a wolf really need a certificate that he is a wolf ?!
Or does a wolfhound need authority in order to crush wolves ?!

Xivas are needed for those who in childhood did not play enough and "Cossack robbers" ...
And to do what I LIKE not a single Law will forbid me !!!!

Yours faithfully

 

[Частный детектив Краснослободцев Дмитрий Николаеви]

Re: Private investigation in Krasnoyarsk

Theoretically, they should, but their staff is not rubber, and nobody has canceled the empty script. According to the administration it will be difficult to establish whether a person is engaged in detective activities or legal (information, consulting, etc.), and, accordingly, the contracts will be for the provision of these services. By and large, people are not interested in the license, the name of the contract, the main quality and deadlines services.

 

[Детективное агентство Кострома]

Re: Private detectives want to be "in law"

It is difficult to answer all questions at once, but let’s take an example: I do what I want ... and get a reward ?, then, I am interested in someone by order of a client - but they complain about me that I violate the law on personal data (collect, analyze, systematize etc.) I agree with the list of permitted views (list only), and an indication of who, how, with the help of which, whom are indicated in the Law. It would be nice if the law
it is written that the detective can send a request and answer him, and there are many such examples.
The most strange thing for me is that the detective is allowed to carry out certain activities, but they are also registered in the ARD, which means they don’t .. - are there any conflicts and intentionally, in order to sausage?
As for ksiv, we need of course, so that there are reasons to conclude a contractor, present it and the results to court, law enforcement
This is only my opinion, which I do not impose, but only try to reason.
Alexander K.

 

[Детективное агентство Симферополь]

Re: Private detectives want to be "in law"

Alexander, here you say -
1. ARD is not possible, and some events are possible (it’s strange for you) ... and you’re promoting this Law yourself ...
(for me it’s not surprising - we live in such a country ... our colleague on the mentality wrote already)
2. You (allegedly) are complaining about a violation of the Law on Personal Data - but what does the Law on Special Occupational Safety and Duty have to do with this ?! - This Law allows you to violate the Law on per. data?! ... how will he help in this regard ??? !!!
3. Do you use Xiva to conclude contracts ??? !!! -
The basis for the possibility of concluding a contract is the desire of the client and the contractor to conclude it! + for the conclusion of contracts between physical. and jur. face of legal persons must be the seal of the organization to secure the contract, if physical + physical. - a notary public ........ and not "ksiva" ...
To do this, there is the Constitution and Codes, within the framework of the articles of which these treaties are drawn up and executed .... what does "ksiva" have to do with it? - When you conclude a contract with a furniture supplier for a supply, for this you must have a Supplier Certificate ??? !!! Or when you sign contracts with clients you write them on the form of your "ksiva" ???? !!!!

I apologize for this answer, maybe I misunderstood something ??? !!!

 

[Детективное агентство Кострома]

Re: Private detectives want to be "in law"

Returning to the essence of the topic raised:
1. I say that the law is needed, but there should be clearly spelled out the possibilities and their absence, guarantees, obligations, and of course the protection of law enforcement officers and unreasonable lawsuits against the detective.
2. It should not contradict other legislative acts, therefore it was previously written that it would be necessary to introduce changes in the labor, criminal, procedural, etc .;
3. Manufacturers do not have a license, and owners of xiv have it and, as a rule, should be specified in the contract. Otherwise, the contract is recognized (may) be null and void, since it could not fulfill the conditions.
4. The client with his problems will go only to the owner of the "Xiva", and not to the one who wanted and is engaged in the investigation for his pleasure.

He answered as best he could.
Alexander K.

 

[Саратов-Алиби]

Re: Private detectives want to be "in law"

3. Manufacturers do not have a license, and owners of xiv have it and, as a rule, should be specified in the contract. Otherwise, the contract is recognized (may) be null and void, since it could not fulfill the conditions.



Alexander license number MUST be indicated in the contract. And the implementation of Detective Activities WITHOUT LICENSE is at least not a legitimate business.
At least in our country.

 

[Детективное агентство Симферополь]

Re: Private detectives want to be "in law"

Returning to the essence of the topic raised:
1. I say that the law is needed, but there should be clearly spelled out the possibilities and their absence, guarantees, obligations, and of course the protection of law enforcement officers and unreasonable lawsuits against the detective.
2. It should not contradict other legislative acts, therefore it was previously written that it would be necessary to introduce changes in the labor, criminal, procedural, etc .;
3. Manufacturers do not have a license, and owners of xiv have it and, as a rule, should be specified in the contract. Otherwise, the contract is recognized (may) be null and void, since it could not fulfill the conditions.
4. The client with his problems will go only to the owner of the "Xiva", and not to the one who wanted and is engaged in the investigation for his pleasure.

He answered as best he could.
Alexander K.

It seems that they began to come to a common point (to understanding), but:
Clause 3 - the supplier MUST legally have a LICENSE for freight transportation. The manufacturer, I could be mistaken in this, must also have a License authorizing the production of a product! - I didn’t see the driver-forwarding agent or the furniture salon manager ...
Clause 4 - a client with problems will go to someone who QUALITATIVELY does his work and to whom we RECOMMEND, and not to the first one who comes across xivas ... if you talk like you do, then in other countries where there is no Law on NPV that needs these services they do not use chtoli ?! or "write out" a specialist with XIVA from another state ??? !!!

 

[Детективное агентство Симферополь]

Re: Private detectives want to be "in law"

Alexander license number MUST be indicated in the contract. And the implementation of Detective Activities WITHOUT LICENSE is at least not a legitimate business.
At least in our country.

HERE, I Support !!! and I will continue -
And if there is no law, then a license is not needed, respectively ... but if there is a number in the NEA - then everything is legal !!!

 

[частный детектив Хмельницкий]

Re: Private detectives want to be "in law"

it would be nice if the law spelled out
there should be spelled out more clearly
must not contradict other legislative acts

Sasha (Kostroma) ..... these are quotes from your posts ..... everything on the basis of “should be” .... And what then did you “push through”, sparing no effort and money ??? ... . Teach us how to promote the Law in Ukraine, accuse us of the illegality of our work, and we ourselves “promoted” it in such a way that, besides, they would not “advance” anything ..... Where is the truth in your thoughtful advice and teachings?