Announcement of the X IAPD Conference.

[Третьяков Дмитрий Олегович]

Dear Colleagues! Having analyzed the Forum Messages, I would like to urge all interested parties not to debate, but to express constructive thoughts and suggestions! When for the first time the idea of working in the direction of reforming private detective work arose within our team, several theses were identified - the most important of which is the message with which we will go out to society - we want to protect society from fraudsters who have divorced a lot in the vastness of our vast Motherland and to improve qualitatively provided services, but as a result, in order for us to implement our plan and it is necessary to reform the law, create a register, develop a code of ethics and disciplinary measures - which, in our opinion, together will increase the STATUS of PRIVATE DETECTIVE! In this regard, I would like to hear your thoughts on this matter: what specifically could increase this status and make BH UNIQUE. For good reason we draw parallels between lawyers and lawyers without status, these are very close topics to us! And just the same understanding of the differences between the lawyer community and other lawyers without status is the basis for the development of a productive discussion in our field of activity! Briefly (anyone who wants to can find out in more detail) a lawyer is a lawful secret protected by law, special legal status, special conditions for obtaining status through examinations, disciplinary practice up to deprivation of status, exclusive functions in the role of defense counsel and so on, which significantly differs from other lawyers which are no less successful but inherently slightly different! In our view, something like this needs to be implemented in the ch. So that a person going to a private detective goes to a private detective and not to a consulting agency, a commercial sat and other "agencies", then many of our colleagues think I will think about acquiring an official status ....
I summarize: in our opinion, the whole problem of our community was, until recently, in the wrong message to society and the state - give us this! Give us that! So this does not work in order to use the administrative resource and the support of the “lawmakers”, we must first of all come up with a public initiative aimed at the benefit of society! Who else but we see the problem from the inside !!!! Fighting scammers directly in our ranks !! Since in view of all this house and the analysis of the system in our orientation, people don’t have an understanding of who the detective is, how the detective can actually be useful, how much it can be useful, how the information collected by the detective can be used within the framework of the law, will the collected detective information at least some role in civil / criminal proceedings, whether it is possible to use and is the information provided by the detective legal, is the person calling himself a detective - a licensed detective. On the basis of this confusion, fraudsters are born who use this situation in the right direction for themselves, often not even afraid that the person who turns to him will go somewhere for protection, since the person who turns to him is not within the law.
The first step in order for us to be heard we must convey to the "lawmakers" that we will carry a socially useful semantic load. For the implementation of which we need initial changes in the legislation aimed at the internal self-regulation of the organization and its transformation.
Having realized our plan and showing that our organization has taken place. We have a clearly structured structure, there is the concept of a private detective and what is he called for. There is a code of honor and responsibility for certain actions in the flesh until the license is withdrawn by a collegial decision. Strictly built structure within the organization. Representatives from a private investigation were introduced to the Council of the Russian Guard. Having shown that we really are one, even though there may not be so many of us, we can self-regulate, be fairly open to society and the authorities. Having proved that our goals are aimed at highly qualified assistance to society. Then we can already come forward with initiatives on new, more serious amendments to legislation in the field of black hole, on access to various databases with personal passwords for conducting full-fledged investigations, expanding the powers to collect and provide evidence in courts, and much more.
It is necessary to start somewhere, and this also requires great efforts and our unity !!!

 

[Третьяков Дмитрий Олегович]

Dear Colleagues! Having analyzed the Forum Messages, I would like to urge all interested parties not to debate, but to express constructive thoughts and suggestions! When for the first time the idea of working in the direction of reforming private detective work arose within our team, several theses were identified - the most important of which is the message with which we will go out to society - we want to protect society from fraudsters who have divorced a lot in the vastness of our vast Motherland and to improve qualitatively provided services, but as a result, in order for us to implement our plan and it is necessary to reform the law, create a register, develop a code of ethics and disciplinary measures - which, in our opinion, together will increase the STATUS of PRIVATE DETECTIVE! In this regard, I would like to hear your thoughts on this matter: what specifically could increase this status and make BH UNIQUE. For good reason we draw parallels between lawyers and lawyers without status, these are very close topics to us! And just the same understanding of the differences between the lawyer community and other lawyers without status is the basis for the development of a productive discussion in our field of activity! Briefly (anyone who wants to can find out in more detail) a lawyer is a lawful secret protected by law, special legal status, special conditions for obtaining status through examinations, disciplinary practice up to deprivation of status, exclusive functions in the role of defense counsel and so on, which significantly differs from other lawyers which are no less successful but inherently slightly different! In our view, something like this needs to be implemented in the ch. So that a person going to a private detective goes to a private detective and not to a consulting agency, a commercial sat and other "agencies", then many of our colleagues think I will think about acquiring an official status ....
I summarize: in our opinion, the whole problem of our community was, until recently, in the wrong message to society and the state - give us this! Give us that! So this does not work in order to use the administrative resource and the support of the “lawmakers”, we must first of all come up with a public initiative aimed at the benefit of society! Who else but we see the problem from the inside !!!! Fighting scammers directly in our ranks !! Since in view of all this house and the analysis of the system in our orientation, people don’t have an understanding of who the detective is, how the detective can actually be useful, how much it can be useful, how the information collected by the detective can be used within the framework of the law, will the collected detective information at least some role in civil / criminal proceedings, whether it is possible to use and is the information provided by the detective legal, is the person calling himself a detective - a licensed detective. On the basis of this confusion, fraudsters are born who use this situation in the right direction for themselves, often not even afraid that the person who turns to him will go somewhere for protection, since the person who turns to him is not within the law.


The first step in order for us to be heard we must convey to the "lawmakers" that we will carry a socially useful semantic load. For the implementation of which we need initial changes in the legislation aimed at the internal self-regulation of the organization and its transformation.

Having realized our plan and showing that our organization has taken place. We have a clearly structured structure, there is the concept of a private detective and what is he called for. There is a code of honor and responsibility for certain actions in the flesh until the license is withdrawn by a collegial decision. Strictly built structure within the organization. Representatives from a private investigation were introduced to the Council of the Russian Guard. Having shown that we really are one, even though there may not be so many of us, we can self-regulate, be fairly open to society and the authorities. Having proved that our goals are aimed at highly qualified assistance to society. Then we can already come forward with initiatives on new, more serious amendments to legislation in the field of black hole, on access to various databases with personal passwords for conducting full-fledged investigations, expanding the powers to collect and provide evidence in courts, and much more.
It is necessary to start somewhere, and this also requires great efforts and our unity !!!

 

[Детектив-Юг]

You need to start with the letters of the BH Law, with the objective register of BH and the presence of a valid IP in these BHs.

 

[Третьяков Дмитрий Олегович]

Dear Colleagues! If someone has a desire to participate in a group to prepare initiatives, we will be glad to cooperate !!

 

[Демитрий]

Dear Colleagues! If someone has a desire to participate in a group to prepare initiatives, we will be glad to cooperate !!

I'm ready!

 

[Демитрий]

You need to start with the letters of the BH Law, with the objective register of BH and the presence of a valid IP in these BHs.

Victor. Will you participate in the legislative initiative group?

 

[Матушкин Андрей Николаевич]

I'm ready!

This is ours!

 

[Андрей Захаров]

Victor. Will you participate in the legislative initiative group?

Probably, before "tackling" legislative initiatives, it is necessary, as Victor correctly says, to first clarify how many of us are in the Russian Federation, which of the licensed are engaged in practical activities ... and this is important ... since not knowing how much You won’t recognize BH, but for the sake of whom and what are these very legislative initiatives .. So, first of all, you must probably "rely on" first-second ")))) As in the ranks ..... And by how exactly this stage will pass The “idea”, which is real and will immediately be seen, who “deals” with these issues, and who just “stir up water” came out .... And only after the implementation of this particular stage, which needs to be completed before the day of the next conference, can you already will talk about some kind of legislative initiatives .... And in the beginning, probably the leadership of the MOD should in Rosguard "get" the register of currently registered BHs .... And based on the results of this "action" determine the further direction of work in this direction, in particular -check for real whether the black holes registered in the registry work or not .... After that, it will be determined with the number of working detectives and their location (for the coverage of precisely licensed specific territories with services) and then according to plan))))

 

[Демитрий]

Probably, before "tackling" legislative initiatives, it is necessary, as Victor correctly says, to first clarify how many of us are in the Russian Federation, which of the licensed are engaged in practical activities ... and this is important ... since not knowing how much You won’t recognize BH, but for the sake of whom and what are these very legislative initiatives .. So, first of all, you must probably "rely on" first-second ")))) As in the ranks ..... And by how exactly this stage will pass The “idea”, which is real and will immediately be seen, who “deals” with these issues, and who just “stir up water” came out .... And only after the implementation of this particular stage, which needs to be completed before the day of the next conference, can you already will talk about some kind of legislative initiatives .... And in the beginning, probably the leadership of the MOD should in Rosguard "get" the register of currently registered BHs .... And based on the results of this "action" determine the further direction of work in this direction, in particular -check for real whether the black holes registered in the registry work or not .... After that, it will be determined with the number of working detectives and their location (for the coverage of precisely licensed specific territories with services) and then according to plan))))

We are few, but we are in vests!)) Break through!))

 

[Андрей Захаров]

We are few, but we are in vests!)) Break through!))

Similarly, Dmitry))) Slowly ... slowly, we are still moving forward ....))))